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What Unbirth Are

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Destiny, Apr 3, 2009.

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  1. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    I have bee neein ga few theories popping up on what the unbirth are. I have figured thi out a while back.

    In the series. Normura has been following it in order.

    In the first game we have the heartles representing heart
    In com we have the cards and nobodies and memories representing what I think is the mind
    The second game we really tackle the nobodies and it reprsents the body
    Now 358/2 Days is part of the mind and body
    Coded it's really nothing special.
    However, the unbirths in BBS gives me this idea that they represent the soul.

    Heart, mind, body, and soul is pretty common in importances to life. I think that in bbs the unbirths are the soul part of that and the future game will have a combo of all 4. If this may be true and unless Normura comes up with a new idea or something when they start kingdom hearts 3 they'll have nothing left, they use all 4 sayings and them combined.

    So what do you think of my little theory?
     
  2. RoxasxKairi

    RoxasxKairi New Member

    Hmm, I am curious about it.
    I think you may be on to something, good theory.
     
  3. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    a lot of people have been suggesting it. most likely the soul since the unbirths sign looks like a mix of the Heartless and Nobody sign
     
  4. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    I believe the unbirths are the soul too.
    But memories lie within the heart not the mind.
     
  5. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    If i could add, i have something that buzzed me...

    Heartless: Always appear and always seen to people (many people know about Heartless)
    Nobodies: Sometimes appear and sometimes don't (mean that many people don't know about Nobodies)
    Unbirths: Never shown in folks and only appear when saw Keyblade bearer (mean that only keyblade bearer/ally in past know about Unbirths. That means Unbirths don't like to show their appearance, like Nobody.)
     
  6. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Maybe they dont appear because their isnt alot of strong hearted people out their to create them and they are born in the inbetween world so they have to use corridors of darkness to travel between worlds.
     
  7. LordOfTheKeyblade1

    LordOfTheKeyblade1 New Member

    Mmmmm. Yeah That's interesting. Kairi Star, I also think that the Unbirths are the Soul. And KBL I think that that's a pretty strong theory. But, maybe it has something to do with the fact that we like to express ourselves through our heart (Heartless) and our mind and body (Nobodies) but not through our soul (Unbirths). Most people don't even believe that there is a soul and this could be represented by the lack of knowledge about Unbirths.
     
  8. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    I agree on the soul thing completely. thats strong and sturdy also makes sense,

    but the games beng about the heart, mind, body, and soul, :p i don't really like that. The game as always been about the heart, CoM=Memories that lie deep in the heart. Nobodies, those without hearts, Org 13= Nobodies who want hearts, or seek hearts.
    Unbirths=those with unborn hearts? or hearts that aren't fully developed?

    Its a real good theory, and can actually be it,


    i don 't see that..
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2009
  9. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle


    Whether the Symbols are relevant or not...

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    Heartless_____Unbirth_____________Nobody

    Unless you are referring to that you don't see the similarities.
    I see the Hollowed out heart of the Unbirth Symbol is similar to the heart of the Heartless Symbol and the Straight lines perhaps represent the the jaggedness of the Nobody Symbol.
     
  10. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    wait, how do we what unbirths look like?

    plus, where did the soul come in at? I mean heartless and nobody both don't have hearts. Heartless collect hearts and make more heartless, and nobodys want there hearts back/ Plus they have no soul. So unbirths must not have hearts all together, right? Or maybe unbirths have hearts and souls cause there like a heartless and nobody mixed, like a mid form. There unbirths cause there both heartless and nobody's just not fully born.

    And a question, are chaser's unbirths too?
     
  11. Yukie

    Yukie Fist Pumps

    Unbirths are people who hadn't been born. Like Kairi, stated, they may be souls wondering around with out a heart nor body to call home.
     
  12. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Uh, I think the heartless & the unbirths are connected. First off comes the heart shaped in their symbols. I remember from seeing the trailor with Terra that some of the unbirths looks like the neoshadows heartless. The nobodies don't look like them, but yet, they still are the body & soul left behind. I think the unbirths are the spirit or the nothingness.
     
  13. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    there are pictures of unbirths..

    the soul makes sense,its just a theory, but:
    Heartless: Heart
    Nobodies: Body
    Unbirth: Soul
    they all tie together


    Heartless, are hearts that are taken over by darkness

     
  14. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

     
  15. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

     
  16. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    that's something Ican agree with,Imean they all mean no heart, i think. But if unbriths are wandering souls, then maybe they still wander today? But is it possible that unbriths are really MX'S creation? And that DS was his creation and he messed up, and that's how nobody with human forms were made? Plus, are chasers unbriths too? Cause nobody answered my question.
     
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Heartless have hearts...
    .
    No its been confirmed that unbirths are extinct in sora's time

    .
    I Doubt DS is one, he could be, but an unbirth weilding a keyblade?(well i guess since a heartless(well not a heartless but Sora while he was just a roaming heart and had no body, a nobody already have)
    .
    No, nobodies in human bodies come from people with strong hearts.

    .[/UOTE] Plus, are chasers unbriths too? Cause nobody answered my question.[/QUOTE]
    an no chasers aren't unbirths
     
  18. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I remember the trailer secret in KH2 at the very end that it mentioned the chasers, but I definitely don't know what they are. THe words were going way to fast at the end of the trailer secret.
     
  19. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    Well a chaser is defined as either "one who chases" or "one who engraves metal"
    Having the story of BBS with Aqua Terra and Ven "chasing" MS and DS (supposedly) making them Chasers in the story.
    With the other meaning "one who engraves metal" perhaps hinting Keyblade makers (?) or maybe a pun on the fact that keys are made of metal (while avoiding the Keyblades like sweet memories which in fact looks like it is made of wood)

    But back on topic, what is an Unbirth?
    What Star has mentioned does perhaps make plausible sense but I've never heard of "Heart, Body, Mind and Soul" just "Mind, Body and Soul".
    Maybe she's correct mentioning they're souls, I've heard something about that the Unbirth's are somehow connected to the dead so perhaps the soul is the one to mention there. Also the Keyblades that make up the Keyblade Crossroads, weren't they meant to be Keyblades of previous but now dead wielders? Again with the Dead relating to the Soul thing here, Souls of previous Keyblade wielders becoming Unbirth's.

    EDIT
    Again I could be wrong with someone mentioning I'm wrong with some facts that I haven't heard of yet.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2009
  20. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    @_@_?_? I'm not sure of myself. Then, when I saw the trailer of Terra fighting on Princess Aurora's world, the boss that he came across with looks similar to the heartless boss on Wonderland in KH. Was that boss in Aurora's world a unbirth?
     
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