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What Unbirth Are

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Destiny, Apr 3, 2009.

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  1. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    That was the "Wheel Master" and I think it's an Unbirth because Heartless and Nobodies did not exist in the BBS timeline. The "Trickmaster (Wonderland Heartless Boss) does have a similar name and like you said, probably does have a similar appearance (I need to look at those two first to confirm it myself), perhaps indicating a relationship between Unbirths and Heartless?
    Or maybe just a design Nomura prefers to use and having similar names as a pun.
     
  2. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    I heard that Wheel Master is unbirth that resemblance of the Spinning Wheel from the Sleeping Beauty story.
     
  3. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    What if, and this is a shot in the dark, the unbirths are nobodies AND hearts that have been rebonded. I mean, have we ever seen that happen before? It could be that the nobody and the heart didn't bond perfectly, causing an irregularity that would create the unbirth. Chances for something like that happening are low indeed which would explain why few of them show up. The nobodies could appear way more often, but unlike heartless, they are limited. There is no limit to heartless. A bad bonding, no any bonding, of a nobody and a heart would be rare indeed. And we DID see a lot of hearts fall from the nobodies kingdom hearts, so it stands to reason some of them bonded with a nobody. Sora and Kairi are exceptions because for some reason, they became people that could survive without their nobody. They were sorta like heartless really. Again this is a shot in the dark.
     
  4. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    ?_?_? You lmena when Ansem's device blew up Kingdom Hearts in KH2 & the nobodies was looking up in the air & was reaching for them, but the hearts fell back into darkness & became heartless again?
     
  5. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    i think so. but i don't understand it much.
     
  6. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Wait a second. Nobodies were born if someone have strong heart become a heartless. And heartless only exist after Xehanort continue the research of Ansem's research that result them.
    So basically the theory is wrong
     
  7. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Yea. Your right trumpy. Also, I realize as I'm looking at the BBS youtube vidoes that one of the unbirths is similar to the fat body heartless. Also, as I'm watching this video, Master Xehanort told Ven to defeat his apprentice who is already infused with darkness & to correct his mistake. Ven also told I think Terra to erase him. I don't know why though.
     
  8. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    From that video, i thought that MX's apprentice is his double/son. Maybe MX is actually a good guy and Terra is the bad guy (I know its wrong, but the possibility is high).
     
  9. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I have a conclusion! The unbirths somehow do have a link to the heartless! I know becaue from looking at Ven & Terra fighting them, some of the unbirths be looking like the heartlesses that I know. Like these:

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    Then there's the Wheelmaster who is similar to the Trickmaster & there's another unbirth that looks like the fire pasbery heartless from KH.
     
  10. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    maybe, but just because they look alike don't mean they are related. but im sure they do have a connection. nobodies have connection to heartless too o_O..so i think we can assume that all 3 of them connected somehow
     
  11. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    Yes but it stands to reason that some of those hearts made it to the nobodies. There were BILLIONS of the things. The sky was full of them. No way they all went to darkness. The chances of that are low. This would also explain the similarities in the unbirth as compared to the heartless. Hearts in the wrong body. Here's something from the game to support this.

    Kh-2, When Yen-Cid is talking about the nobodies.

    "... A spirit that goes on..."

    In order to avoid inconsistencies in the game, they can't make the Unbirths spirits. This is the only thing i can think of that would explain the Unbirths existence.
     
  12. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Its okay. But you must know that Xehanort is like the "Key that lead into chaos". Nobodies and Heartless can't get out from realm of darkness/realm of nothingness until Xehanort releases them with his/Ansem's research.
     
  13. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    well, unbriths could have been destroyedsome how when MX was killed?
     
  14. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    Xehanort wanted a kingdom hearts, and he almost had it. Of course its likely that the Unbirths were released as a result in kingdom hearts's destruction. They could have been an effect created by that. Now Ansem is the father of all Unbirth to.
     
  15. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Isn't it Vise-Versa?
     
  16. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.


    ansem couldn't be the father of all unbirths, because we have yet to see ansem in BBS,
    we only see Master Xehanort. so thats def no logical

    here is the most resonable.

    Master Xehanort, and Terra some how fuse or MX becomes younger some how. That making Xehanort. Xehanort becomes one of Ansem's apperentices. Some Freak accident happens with hearts and creates the first heartless. unbirths would be extinct at this time. some how between the point after BBS and KH1 unbirths get extinct,
     
  17. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    wait how does mx and terra fuse in the first place.
     
  18. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Idk. It's a mystery to all of us. Do the unbirths also have a connection with the princesses of hearts?
     
  19. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    That is just a theory, i don't like it but it seems reasonable enough. In the trailer Terra's eyes turn yellow. Xehanorts eyes are yellow. Xehanort and Terra have similar hair, except Xehanort's hair is longer and white. Master Xehanort has white hair, and carries the name Xehanort.

    If they did the fusions dance. Master Xehanort + Terra= Xehanort

    Well there are no such things as PoH's in bbs, only those with pure hearts, they aren't refered to as PoH's because kairi wasn't around or she was just 4
     
  20. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    The poh were around then, that's when they first came to be, that's why MX amd DS are going to the different worlds with princesses of hearts. Plus guys this is off subject to my very first post and point for making this thread, so please remake a thread for a different topic instead of spamming in this one.
     
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