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358/2 Days, KH2, and BBS<<< Spoiler

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days' started by Destiny, Jun 8, 2009.

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  1. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Hey guys, thanks to all of our pals Loco, we have found a connection for all three games.

    In a cutscene in 358/2 Days, Xion turns into Ven, he/ she is fighting Axel and Xigbar. The only person who can see Xion as Ven is Xigbar. Axel only sees Xion with her hood up. Unfortanetly I can't try to translate the text due to not being able to see the words.

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    So Loco and I are thinking on why him. He then was able to make it click. We believe Xigbar is the apprentice. We also came to this conclusion on something Xigbar says fighting Sora in KH2. He says, "You don't look like you're half the hero the others were..."

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    Now we came to anotehr problem, the apprentice had a keyblade, why doesn't Xigbar have one. We came to conclusion he's basicly a lot like Ansem and Riku, when Ansem had Riku in control he had a keyblade, a fake. Plus remeber something MX says "Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to weild the keyblade." That's how the apprentice is unable to weild the keyblade.

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    Also Xigbar knows all about the wars and Ven.

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  2. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I didn't see the 3rd or 1st video, but I really hate spoilers now eve since trumpy showed the video with Xion getting killed by Roxas at the end of 358/2. Only thing I wanted to know is about Terra saying about him being master.
     
  3. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    BINGO, you guys GOT IT ithink ha

    the only thing i would disagree with is the fake keyblade part. We don't know if that keyblade is fake, because it was made from Six of the Seven princesses of heart.
    So my point being, We have no idea how a keyblade is made, so we cant really call Ansem Riku's keyblade fake, so i don't really agree with Xigbar being the Apperentice.
     
  4. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    I was also discussing this with him (Loco) 10 hours ago. We were agreeing on many things, until it got really late for me and I started saying things about how he (Xigbar) got his scar and eye patch as well as how the size of Roxas's hands and Sora's feet were plausible.

    Anyway, while I was just lying down twiddling my thumbs, something also occurred to me. Xigbar manipulates space which has a connection to time somehow. Master Xehanort's Apprentice wields a Keyblade which has teeth resembling gears or a cog which are found in clocks and old watches. Clocks and watches mean time, Xigbar manipulates Space (time).
    I see this connection to increase the theory of Xigbar or Braig being the Apprentice of Master Xehanort to be correct, but that's what I think, not what I know.

    In a quick summary...
    Xigbar=Space
    Space=Time
    Time=Clocks
    Clocks=Cogs
    Cogs=Teeth of the Apprentices Keyblade.


    EDIT
    New Video from Loco about this. It's just all of them put together but showing the more noted scenes, but is missing one thing, but he mentions it.
    >KH Connections: Xigbar and BBS<
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2009
  5. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    This thread is the continue from my "Who is he?" thread. XD

    I knew there is something icky with Xigbar. There are many speculations that Xigbar= Braig= Master Xehanort because of the similarities in looks and the way he talk.

    But i don't agree that Xigbar is the apprentice, maybe they have meet each other in Radiant Garden, where Braig was working with Ansem The Wise.

    BTW, i have read some of the translation. Xigbar said:
    "どうしていつもそんな目で - 俺をにらみつける?"
    which it means:
    "Why do you always look at me with that glare in your eyes?"
    or
    "It's always with those eyes... Do you scowl at me?"

    This may have connection to what he said to Sora at Hollow Bastion:
    "That's right! He used to give me the same exact look!"
     
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  6. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Oooooooooooooooookaaaay. Y'all messed up about that Braig/Xigbar apprentice part. He's the apprentice of Ansem the Wise based on his secret reports. Also, ??? Xigbar manipulating time & space? That's... ... hard for me to see based on his powers in the organization.
     
  7. Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    It's a possiblity he can be both as well though. He could have easily after being Xehanort's apprentice could have become Ansem's apprentice.
     
  8. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    No, time element is used by Luxord. Rawr just telling the connection of Space and Time.

    Its plausible, either correct or true, i don't know for sure.
     
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  9. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    what if xigbarwas just told about everything, or learned about. or the org. had some kind of a thing that let you see the past, like the room of sleep.
     
  10. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    I cannot say for sure, it could Young Xehanort told him everything, included about "Tomodachi" or "Friend" that he seek, because in Secret Ansem Report, it is said that "Even also interested about Xehanort memories". And also, Young Xehanort who was the one that created Room of Sleep, and seek the Room of Awakening.

    (SPOILER ALERT)
    Xigbar called Roxas "Kitty" in 358/2 days (seriously! >.<)
    (SPOILER END)
     
  11. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    I think he was talking about Roxas bud. All the organization said things like that to Sora, that was refering to Roxas. Or maybe they were Referring to Ven.

    Well Xigbar knda did munipulate space actually.

    Thats doubtful, but then again, this is KH, and the doubtful stuff happens :p
     
  12. Trisection

    Trisection New Member

    Xigbar is too old and skinny to be Xehanort's apprentice.

    He probably just saw Terra/Ven/Aqua at Radiant Garden or something.
     
  13. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Braig is MX's apprentice??? I dont believe it. Braig was in Radiant Garden at the time of bbs. Im pretty sure he just saw VAT during that time they went to Radiant Garden.

    ^This
     
  14. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    -_- Which comes back to BBS. If we play BBS, then we'll definitely know about Xigbar. ??? Did Terra, Ven, & Aqua even go to Radient Garden? Xigbar knows something about the keyblade war though.
     
  15. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Yep, let me think. The video where Terra is holding Ven in Radiant Garden where the battle with 1000 heartless happened. Terra:"I dont care about being master." "This power I use for my friends."
     
  16. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Oh. Ok. Now I remembered, but I didn't see Aqua there though. @_@ IT's confusing to see Villain's Vale there though in BBS & Maleficent didn't have control of Radient Garden yet until Kh though.
     
  17. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Well Aqua has her own scenario so I think she'll eventually make it there just not the same time as Ven and Terra.
     
  18. PaintedDragon

    PaintedDragon New Member

    Wait...Roxas kills Xion? o_____o
     
  19. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    Well let me sum it up and write it in white for you. Just highlight if you want the spoiler.
    This is from what I have gathered and have been told... So I could be wrong but I think I got it right this time.
    *After Xion becomes insane (real messed up) and starts "becoming" Sora (physically), she notices she is an incomplete being but also not a nobody but a copy/clone. Now insane, she plans to kill and absorb Roxas to become whole since Xion was created by memories of Sora. Now Roxas who was being attacked could only fight back, and because of the Story course, he had to win thus beating her and slapping some sense into her. Now Xion begins to die after she is defeated but she also goes back to her former physical appearance (the girl) and regains sanity. Then Roxas absorbs her for some reason and then receives some of Sora's memories giving him new powers and a reason to run away from the Organization*

    Again, if anyone has the correct and confirmed stories, don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong.
     
  20. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    I think there wouldn't be Villain's Vale, because in my opinion, Maleficent still in Enchanted Dominion in every trailer.

    Probably she'll move to Radiant Garden where heartless destroyed that world.

    I heard that you could swap scenarios for every character. So when you stopped in middle when you play as Terra, you could play as Aqua.
     
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