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Do you think the Organization 13 really has hearts?

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts 2' started by RoxasxKairi, Dec 29, 2008.

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  1. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    no answer is stupid, well you just didn't know so its fine.

    or not..they have no hearts, because there heartless basically would be there heart...so NO

    thank you
     
  2. VentusSearcher

    VentusSearcher Steam is the only way....

    but dont u think since they r so powerful they should have hearts
     
  3. thanks x3pic.


    ive been watching the JP parts of KH 2. they say self:

    We do not live and
    Axel is putting his life on the line.
    but we do not even have a life

    those kind of stuff. you know I just do not know *Gets Crazy*
     
  4. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    Well,Japan people can make crazy things make sense.Just look at the Metal Gear games.

    Anyway,it is an established fact they do not have hearts.No way,no how.I they did they would not be Nobodys.
     
  5. hahah there you get the point.
    uh? what had it to do with Metal Gear?
     
  6. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    I just ment that the Japanese game makers can have people come up with the most confused,tangeled,and usually unlikelist of stories,and still have them work.

    Like the whole Life thing with Axel,it makes no sense really,but they make it make sense when you play the game.Same with Metal Gear games (which would make some great movies)
     
  7. ah yeah,
    there is one Metal gear movie, forget the name -.- that a awesome one
    but they should make more, i had the game Metal Gear solid, sons of liberty.
    and in the end you get the whole thing about Raiden, Rose and Snake
     
  8. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    I think they just got a conciseness. So they feel sadness or happiness, or maybe Because they remember emotions they tell themselves to feel that emotion in the right time.
     
  9. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    no, obviously you don't need a heart to be powerful.


    They can have conciseness, or they wouldn't be wouldn't be breathing....o_O

    but they don't have emotions, they just ACT like they do to fool people..Yen sid said that..
     
  10. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    Thats the gist of it.Some nobodys have special circumstances,such as Namine and Roxas,but otherwise they are heartless (no,not the black,im gonna rip out your heart for fun kind,the Im gonna rip out your heart so I can use it to get mine back kind)
     
  11. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    while this is true, we don't know exactly what these special circumstances are.
     
  12. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    Well,for those two I think we do,well,maybe no exactly for Namine,but for Roxas we do I believe.When Sora became a heartless,he was still falling down,still had his will and memory.Then he got his body back due to Kairi,and everything was s---s and giggles.But Roxas was still formed somehow,with a body that,oddly enough now that we think of it,looks like Ven.He had no memory of his life as Sora,and he also seemed to be able to make Axel feel like he actually was feeling emotions instead of pretending too.This also brings in how Roxas looks like Ven,which brings in Xion and Xigbar,but that is a different topic.Atleast with theories.Actually,those werent reasons were they?Here is one:Vexen says that the wilight Town card comes "From the other side of your heart."That means it didnt come from Sora,or atleast not from him directly,but from something like when he thought he had been to Hollow Bastion before,when it was actually Kairi's heart that was.The same with Roxas,who had part of Sora's heart somehow.Again,that doesnt really answer it,does it?
     
  13. Master Sora

    Master Sora Kingdom Key

    Lol maybe, maybe not.
     
  14. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    This even right here, means sora wasn't a heartless, sora was a heartless for like 5 mins, thats when roxas was created, the second sora lost his heart. Now when Kairi touched him and he got his body back, he was no longer a heartless,because he had all his memories and emotions, he basically was just a heart, in body form, this is what i like to call a free roaming heart..
    he was formed when sora was a shadow for five mins.


    Nomura said that he has a connection with a KH character we know, aka Sora, so it will be explained hopefully


    Actually he did, they just went away due to Namine messing with sora's memory, that effected everyone sora knew, including Roxas, his nobody, but as we saw in KH2, all the memories of past his life as Sora was restored.

    and also a quote, when he was talking to Namine, he says "I Know these guys, thats Goofy, Donald, and Sora.", he just didn't know he was a nobody due to Riku beating the leaving hell out of him :/


    Well Axel felt what he thought was emotions. Whether they are real or not im unsure, we have to play english days

    Mmm, from the other side of his heart, i think vexen meant, roxas, yes, he shares a heart with roxas, but Sora is roxas' heart, so let me to try to explain ha

    Sora becomes a free roaming heart, but roxas is made when Sora was just a shadow heartless.

    This makes roxas, in those five minutes, roxas was created in twilight town im guessing, so basically roxas was there.

    Now when sora got turned into a free roaming heart, sora, or the heart has already well basically seen Twilight town, so it was on sora's other side, aka roxas, idk if that makes sense, because i can't really explain it

    Roxas has no heart :p, because sora is his heart..
     
  15. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    The reason I think Roxas was created after Sora became human again is because they always say the Soul and Body still lvie on,becoming the Nobody.But Sora's body did not become a Nobody,but rather a body that looked like Ven (Or maybe Sora's memories created the body?)
     
  16. ive nvr seen the part where sora became heartless and kairi lying there all the stuff.
    lol, beating the hell out of Roxas lol
     
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Well no Roxas was created when, Sora turned into a heartless, at the exact same time as Namine. Sora's body did become a nobody, aka Roxas.

    He was just able to keep his human form and become just a heart, he didn't have a body, sora was just basically a heart.
     
  18. cans someone give the vid where Sora finds Kairi and he becomes a Heartless?
     
  19. awesome thanks, whoa that was soo sad.
     
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