What Unbirth Are

Nah, makes no sense, that means they are all little babies, but then again
Unbirths are the opposite of human life, or so says nomura

Well since you asked i won't pick it apart but there are a few thing in here that is a bunch no no,
just to point out one
the keyblade war isn't necessarily, when a keyblade weilder is "slain" by another keyblade weilder, this is Disney, so slain or killed in that matter, is too of a harsh word for Disney. So i doubt it has anything to do with that.
Now you could have said, when a keyblade weilder, gets erased from existnce, since we haven't seen that done, but thats not the opposite of human life neither.

 

remember, KH = disney + square enix
i'm sure, as sephiroth will be proof for, but there is a decent amount of bloodsports in the FF series.

and i'm sure that primordial heartless theory is incorrect too? now, answer this question: has anyone seen an original heartless insignia? we've seen the artificial one so many times. any doubt, Ansem's report, KH1 and the end of the world labaratory. KH2, the heartless manufactory and cutscene with the cycle heartless being created (yes, from the CPU, but the machine is still creating heartless).

 

I think when roxas see's those symbols on the table in the mansion one is the heartless symbol, I believe it is the original heartless insignia.

 

sub question for this: can an unbirth wield a keyblade? roxas can, and dark riku could (a manufactured keyblade is a keyblade nonetheless)...its only fair that unbirths are related to the keyblade

 

Dark Riku wasn't a heartless was he? That doesn't make much sense if he was...

 

I dunno... he was possessed though by xehanorts heartless...and in the final boss bit, dark riku turns into aformentioned heartless....

 

But "Dark Riku" is the same name Riku uses for his dark form in Chain of Memories so that kinda says that he can turn freely turn to and from being a heartless?

 

hmm... unbirths are confusing...but what i'd like to know is why they aren't in KH/KH2. extinct, hiding?

 

nah it's the same reason nobodies aren't in KH1... just lack of ideas. You know make it up later.

 

yeah, but i dont know if nomura has said why they look like heartless (artificial ones)

 

Well nobodies kinda look like heartless to if you think about it.

 

underneath the suits they possibly do, but what has that got to do with what Unbirths are

 

unbirths look like artificial heartless...

 

They do, which gets me thinking that these guys could be the precurser to the heartless. Kinda like a prototype of sorts.

 

i agree with uknown master

 

maybe there just premature heartless, even though heartless aren't around back then, doesn't mean there can't be like heartless, i mean in the vids we saw, most of the heartless look like ones that we fought, but a little different.

 

What if they truly were the precurser to the heartless. It would mean that when Xehanort was doing his experiments on the heart he some how took the unbirth and made it into a heartless.

 

no he didn't , Ansem created the first heartless
and it wouldn't be a artificial heartless, because pure blood heartless, and artificial are basicaly the same, nomura has confirmed this.

i don't think that the are precursers' of heartless,because they would still be around in sora's time

 

not necessarily, to use an analogy, the gamecube was a precurser to the nintendo we and they dont sell those anymore, just like if unbirths were precursers to the heartless it doesnt mean they would still be around.

But you do have a good point there.

 

true, but you can't really throw real life situations in to KH buddy, because first gamecubes were being made in like a warehouse

unbirths, aren't made in a warehouse, pretty sure of that, plus they aren't things for sell

Riku: "yo sora i got an unbirth"

Sora: "Oh Yea? Well I Got An Unbirth 360"



i don't think they are precrusers, because to become a heartless, your heart must be consumed by darkness

so if to make a unbirth ones heart must be consumed by darkness, then they would still be around in Sora's time

plus nomura said they are neither heartless nor nobodies, and making them precrusers to heartless is basically saying they are heartless, but just unfinished heartless