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Is it possible for Nobodies to feel?

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Larxenelover2, Jul 21, 2009.

Can nobodies gain the ability to feel?

Poll closed Aug 3, 2009.
  1. Yes

    73.3%
  2. No

    26.7%
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  1. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    I know what you are thinking but im not crazy.
    Here are some examples of Roxas' emotional compasity:
    He angrily attacks DiZ when the latter taunts him and continues to strike at the entity after realizing that it was just a digital image.
    Happily holds up the Champion Belt after winning the Struggle tornament.
    Beforehand, he tried to cheer Hayner up right after beating him.
    Respectfully accepts his fate and rejoins with Sora after seeing him despite initial refusal to do so.
    Continues to apologize to Hayner for disappointing the gang.
    Satisfyingly tells Sora "You make a good other" after their duel.
    Pleaded for Riku and DiZ to let Naminé go.
    Destroys DiZ's computer system in rage after regaining his memories.
     
  2. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Yes. Well, Xemnas wasn't able to because he was a nobody for a long time. Axel was able to feel because of the events of Chain of Memories. Roxas was able to feel, including Xion.
     
  3. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    Because there is a spoiler between the *'s for those who do not know yet.
    *Xion is not a nobody.*
     
  4. GrandShadow

    GrandShadow I accept your challange.

    well i think its a yes

    Roxas was technically an incomplete Nobody because Sora regained his form before Roxas was finished 'being born'. one side effect of being incomplete was his lack of memory from Sora, when a complete Nobody could fully remember thier previous lives. another possible side effect was that he could feel emotions, something a normal Nobody couldn't. this is shown by the examples above and numerous times in 358/2.

    Axel was a normal nobody and couldn't feel emotions. after meeting Roxas though he began to meaning that Roxas could change Nobodies. this is shown because Axel genuinely cared for Roxas and didn't want to destroy him.

    complete Nobodies though apparently feel nothing as pointed out by Xemnas and Saix, shown by both in thier cold, heartless attitudes. yet both show anger, hatred and in Saix's case despair in thier final fights with Xemnas showing anger towards Sora and Riku while Saix despairs at not having a heart.

    i think thst while Nobodies claim to feel nothing they in fact can, just to different degrees. Roxas being close to an emotional wreck while Nobodies like most of the Organization showing mostly anger.
     
  5. Cameron

    Cameron New Member

    I'm not contributing to this topic more than this, but isn't it said that the Nobodies feel rage and hatred, and nothing else? I remember someone saying that.
     
  6. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    What about "Fear"
    Surely Demyx had shown this when we first encounter him in the Underworld?
    And we see him running in the other direction.

    Or perhaps it was an act of some sort, since he did then attack Sora and crew with some form of anger/hatred towards him portraying a "true" kind of feeling.
     
  7. VentusSearcher

    VentusSearcher Steam is the only way....

    i think rawr has a good point
     
  8. Burnin'-Axel

    Burnin'-Axel Flurry of Dancing Flames

    huh, can't believe i didn't notice this o_O Nobodies (dusk's, snipers, berserkers, etc) can't feel cuz they are completly empty shells. The Organization is unique though. Besides them being stronger than regular nobodies, they could've felt things. But think, if everybody in the Organization really had absolutely no feelings or showed they could feel, would you want to buy the game?
    To Rawr's spoiler: Weeell I just ruined the game for myself XD
     
  9. Goldfish

    Goldfish Cats in the Cradle

    Could there also be a memory thing with it?
    Remember when Sora asks Xemnas if he remembered what it felt like to have a heart?
    Xemnas did say no there as well right?

    Keyword being Remember, and Xemnas is like one of (if not, is) the first Nobodies right? Being a Nobody for such a long period of time, feelings may also be forgotten?
    Not sure how it could work that way but this is Kingdom Hearts =p
     
  10. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    I think you r thinking of xemnas at the end of the game of kh2 when he thinks a heart is made up of evil feelings, but sora and riku try to tell him otherwise.
     
  11. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    Yes i agree i think it was a roose to throw sora off gaurd considering how he got so 'confident' so fast.
     
  12. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Nobodies feel nothing, they may think they do, or may try to decieve one, but nobodies have no emotions what so ever
     
  13. Aqua Fresh

    Aqua Fresh Anita ✿◠‿◠

    But I think it's possible though.
     
  14. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    The only reason I even put this on was because roxas seems to have emotional compasity.
     
  15. Aqua Fresh

    Aqua Fresh Anita ✿◠‿◠

    I say he does, if we really want to know, lets do a little research about Nobodies.
     
  16. Larxenelover2

    Larxenelover2 New Member

    here is an article i found on the nature of nobodies:

    Nobodies are born when a heart is swallowed by darkness and becomes a Heartless. They are the remaining parts left behind by the heart: the body, giving a Nobody form, and the soul, giving the Nobody life. However, only those with strong wills such as Sora are actually able to continue on as Nobodies. Those with the strongest wills manage to retain human forms with some slight changes to their appearance, while the rest possess malformed, barely humanoid appearances. Therefore, the more humanoid a Nobody, the more powerful it is. This is opposite the nature of the Heartless, whose form is more monstrous the stronger the original heart is (with the exception of Xehanort's Heartless, who retained human form because he gave into the darkness willingly).

    All Nobodies, vanishing from the realm of light upon the loss of the heart, are born in a world in-between the realms of light and darkness, like Twilight Town or Castle Oblivion. However, because of this and their lack of hearts, they are shunned by both light and darkness, and do not truly exist.

    Because of their missing hearts, Nobodies lack emotion. Although, some humanoid Nobodies pretend to possess emotions, fooling others as well as themselves. On the other hand, Nobodies manage to keep their memories of their former lives, but unusual Nobodies lack memories of their former selves. Such memories are the reason why they can pretend to have emotions. However, even though Nobodies don't have emotions, they can think and plan (as opposed to the Heartless, which are mindless and simply act on instinct, with a few exceptions), and possess memories of their past lives despite their lack of hearts. Nobodies also seem to be able to experience physical sensations, such as pain, as they negatively react to taking damage, and Naminé passed out from the pain of being impaled on Marluxia's thorns (this was seen only in the Chain of Memories manga).

    Although never stated, the events of the Battle of 1000 Heartless implied that Nobodies are stronger than Heartless, since the Nobodies were able to easily overpower the Heartless. At the very least they are just as powerful, and the fact that they are much more intelligent than Heartless only heightens the threat they pose.

    However, it seems that unusual Nobodies (like Roxas and Naminé) possess true emotions. This may be because they co-existed with their original selves (the Keyblade Master of the Realm of Light and a Princess of Heart, respectively) and held half of their essence within them, thus making them more human than other Nobodies.
     
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    That is said in the game, but thanks.

    BUT, seeing on how Roxas and Namine are both special nobodies, they may have emotions. This maybe because Namine's orginal self has her heart, and Sora was able to keep his heart and became a heart after he became a heartless
     
  18. kiarigrl888

    kiarigrl888 New Member

    ya u have a good point
    i think they may have the ability to feel
     
  19. VentusSearcher

    VentusSearcher Steam is the only way....

    now im convinced
    i first said no but now i say yes
    because when xemnas was defeated he was sad or in pain
     
  20. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Don't you think that Saix may be able to feel too. He may be a nobody, but he knows how to injure a heart too. Maybe it's from past experiences when he was still whole before going into the darkness perhaps...
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009
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