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Discussion in 'Archive' started by Soul Knight, Dec 2, 2009.

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  1. Tsukiyomi

    Tsukiyomi Shinto's Moon God

    You guys talk about memories a lot. Especially when you said memories doesn't make a heart a special, like in the game. Well, it doesn't matter. The heart is already a special thing. No matter what.
     
  2. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    ha i would take it has both of us understanding the game and eachothers prespective. memory is a big part of this game...
     
  3. Tsukiyomi

    Tsukiyomi Shinto's Moon God

    It is a big part. Memories are a large portion of the heart. They affect the light and the dark.
     
  4. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    yes but important memories, not every little memory like what i had for dinner..
     
  5. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

     
  6. Tsukiyomi

    Tsukiyomi Shinto's Moon God

    I know. The most important memories are lodged in the heart.
     
  7. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Ha well again he remembered something a 4 year old shouldn't remember in what your case seems to plead





    Im not making a big deal first off, im just saying I DON'T THINK, that all memories lie in the heart. I love how opinions are big deals now? co
    Now correction, Naimne has control over sora's memories, even the ones in his heart. I dont think all memories are in the heart. Even if they were ur missing my point.

    Im saying that Kairi still remembers things from RG





    Common sense tells me how to spell it, how we know animals can't talk, fire can't come from big swords, and 4 year old children should be talking to Mice holding blades in the form of keys..

    Now Kingdom Hearts sense tells me..Sora and Riku are two 4/5 year old children beating eachother in the head. Now im saying Kairi remembers RG, more than she lets us know from the first game, we see that throughout the first game. WE even see a flash back from RG, oh but she doesn't remember

    THANK YOU
     
  8. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Ya know if you're going to base every theory on the whole "Well it doesn't say this or it doesn't say that" but even though it's hinted heavily and most fans accept it as fact, then I don't think debating with you will get us anywhere because your theories are flawed. Theories should always have some proof behind them.

    Opinions and Beliefs are not enough to make a theory, a theory needs to have proof behind and I have failed to see any proof from you.
     
  9. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Actually to be exact i didn't say "well it doesn't say this or it doesn't say that" you said it..
    and on top of that my theories are flawed so are yours, its hinted that Kairi had memories of RG. It is also debatable weither ALL memories or Just IMPORTANT memories lie within the heart. Either way they are both theories. Therefore you have no valid proof nor do I, you just argued my point while i accepted yours and still stood my ground on my opinion, grow up if you want to debate and can't accept ones opinion even if they are wrong or don't agree with you, an OPINION isn't a big deal as you made it, i thought we were having fun until you got agrivated because i did not like your THEORY
     
  10. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    It's not a theory, it is a commonly accepted fact by the majority of the KH fan base that all memories are within the heart. It is never once hinted that memories lie anywhere else except withing the heart.

    What is your is it that you are basing your theory on. What in the KH series hints that memories lie anywhere but in the heart? Unless you provide that I can only assume your theory is based on opinion and therefore it is not a theory, it's an opinion.
     
  11. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Did i not just call my theory an opinion? or did you not read

    Okay so a nobody has no heart correct? Though they have memories...How could they have memories if all of them lie within the heart?
     
  12. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Because memories are linked together on a chain. Every memory is linked on a chain, this is the chain of memory that works as the foundation of the heart. Nomura himself said that hearts do not have a form at first and that memories give the heart form.
     
  13. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    they still have no heart, even while its being formed, but still they have memories..even in this chain.
    Now i do accept your opinon/theory on how memories are in the heart, i know this, but im saying not every memory is there.
     
  14. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Then tell me where the other memories are. Where else but the heart are there other memories?
     
  15. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Well in every human being, and i think animals there isn't a single exact location of memory storage. The process of encoding and retrieving memories is a complex one, requiring many structures to function. The hippocampus and prefrontal cortex are two major areas- however numerous other areas play a part.

    basically, some are stored in the brain
     
  16. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Okay, you are applying real world science to a game. The brain has never been mentioned in KH. It's not important in KH so you never bring it into a theory about KH because it doesn't matter. They wont put something as important as memories in something like the brain which has no importance to the plot in KH.
     
  17. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Your now a hypocrite, ha i was using common sense, in which you were preaching not to long ago? You were to comparing the real world to a game. So now that i do it its wrong?
    No i think some of the memories are stored in the brain or mind, because thats what a brain does, just like lungs make sora breathe, and a hand makes him hold a keyblade. But i don't debate with hypocrites so im done (=
     
  18. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Oh god, Real world analogies do not exist completely in KH. Some stuff from the real world apply to KH but not all of it. The brain exist in KH yes but it does not story memory like it does in the real world.

    But a 4 year old girl is not going to be any different in a video game then one would be in the real world.

    And why earlier did you say you thought we were having fun?
     
  19. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Hypocritical thought. Well demolishing the rules of the real world, would make this game to fantasy like, which is one of the basic rules of making something. You still have to go around the real world concepts while still staying fantasy. KH does this, thats why its a good franchise. Now in KH im sure they do have some memories stored in their brain. Want a hint
    KH1 Sora and Co take the first summoning gem to Squall/Leon, he doesn't remember how it works, so he trys to thing, putting his fingers to his head, thinking try to remember with his brain, thats what i got out of it...

    and i no longer have fun with hypocrites, i saw and accept your opinion, you did not accept mine, therefore don't worry about it.
     
  20. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    So if Nomura actually came out and said all memories are in the heart you would drop your opinion and admit I was right?

    I'm not a hypocrite, look in a fantasy which is what KH is, there are some real world stuff and then some fantasy stuff. 4 year old girls are naive, this is true in both real world and fantasy, name me one fantasy story where a 4 year old girl was not like the 4 year old girls in real life.

    The brain has never been mentioned in KH, so maybe it doesn't have the same fuction it does in the real world.

    And you find debating fun. Debates are supposed to be opposing sides in a battle of words to try and prove a point. It's not meant to be fun, if someone loses a debate they are suppose to admit they are wrong and then feel bad about themselves and feel like a failure. I know that when I lose a debate that is what I do I admit i'm wrong and then I put myself down because it shows i'm a failure, and as such it means I am stupid. That is why i always ask for absolute prove before I admit I am wrong.
     
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