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metaphysics, and keyblades, and lookalikes, Oh My!

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by TheKnightofAwesome, Jun 1, 2011.

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  1. Jun 5, 2011 #21
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Technically he never brought forth Kingdom Hearts in the first game. In the first game Ansem Seeker of Darkness used Sora to open the final keyhole. Resulting in him going to The End of The World which had the Door to Darkness or the Door to Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts was never seen through the door. Basically because the light of Kingdom Hearts engulf Ansem Seeker of Darkness.

    The difference is the way Kingdom Hearts is summoned. Artificially Accumulated, Keyblade of Hearts, or the X-blade.

    Didn't say she was.
    Oke.

    I wouldn't say that. A heart holds a bunch of memories. A heart with no memories is just an empty shell.

    I always saw it as her artificial heart held Sora's memories which made up Xion.

    You have what a heart contains.
    Doesn't really makes sense. If gathering memories within one's self is like rebuilding a heart. Nobodies wouldn't be obsessed with obtaining their hearts. Sora in Chain of Memories was only a heart. He had no body or soul. If memories and emotion made a heart. Sora would have vanished when his memories were unchained. So I really dont see how Xion gaining memories created parts of Sora's heart.

    Sora is a roaming heart. Roxas has Sora's body and soul. Xion's heart can't literally be Sora's heart if Sora still exists.
     
  2. Jun 5, 2011 #22
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

     
  3. Jun 5, 2011 #23
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Well that's the debate. Does Roxas have a heart? I think so....
    "Dive to the Heart"
     
  4. Jun 5, 2011 #24
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Hmm good point Roxas did have a "Dive to the Heart". but instead of a "Darkside" he fought a giant Nobody (can't remember it's real name for the life of me) so is that significant? Like his heart was tied directly to Nothing instead of Light or Darkness?
     
  5. Jun 6, 2011 #25
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Twilight Thorn

    Well that's hard to say.
    Sora had pureblood heartless in his "Dive to the Heart" that could represent Sora's own darkness.

    Roxas on the other hand had nobodies which are in between. I guess there's many possibilities why, the main reason he is a nobody. But honestly I couldn't say.
     
  6. Jun 6, 2011 #26
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    well it can't be only Sora. don't forget that in KH 1 and BBS, the pureblood heartless appeared in the Realm of Darkness, and in Beast's Castle in 358. There should be a reason why one appeared in Sora's Dive to the Heart.
     
  7. Jun 6, 2011 #27
    x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Never said you did, I was hinting that you should know that.

    You said it yourself, a heart is made of a bunch of memories. Bingo kid.

    Nope, she had memories, which were sora's, which came from where? Sora's heart. Not roxas heart, not axels heart. Sora's heart.



    Yes sora would have vanished. You are correctt, but sora is not just a regular person. He and Xehanort are the only ones to keep this form after losing his heart. Now, pay attention for me. Xion was a key part to sora's heart being rebuilt, she had lost memories of sora's. correcct? yes. What I'm really saying, is Xion, gets her memories from Sora's heart, because thats the truth. Which means she would get them from sora's heart.

    Yes, Sora is his heart, so at that time she got her heart from sora, a roaming heart. glad you see it my way. because you basically understood what I said and repeated it
     
  8. Jun 6, 2011 #28
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    I'm making a point that there are not artificial heartless within Sora's Dive to the Heart. XD

    In every game pureblood heartless appear.

    Just making sure.

    Yup that's what makes her Sora's replica.

    Not the answer I was looking for.

    -Focused-

    Yes her and Roxas.
    More or less.

    I don't think I did.

    Clearly I understand this.

    I wouldn't say she got her heart from Sora because really we don't know what is used to create a replica besides memories.
     
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  9. Jun 6, 2011 #29
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Yea but don't forget, the Darkside in Sora's "Dive to the Heart" came out of his shadow. so keybladelegacy could be right in saying that that particular Darkside could represent Sora's own Darkness. the pureblood heartless on other worlds could be the physical manifestation of the Darkness of those individual worlds. Remember, pureblood heartless (even in small quantity) will appear in most worlds. So the fact that there are no Darksides present doesn't mean that they are free of Darkness.
     
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  10. Jun 27, 2011 #30
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Yes it's a possibility. Purebloods are the natural way a heartless is created. Artificial heartless weren't in Sora's heart only the pureblood. Which leaves only one answer, Sora's own darkness. For example Re:Coded, Sora's heartless was a Darkside.
    Or it could mean the world is not in too much of danger.
     
  11. Jun 27, 2011 #31
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Huh... it's been a while since I've been on this Thread... Not sure if this is too old for a reply yet... either way it's been kinda dead for a while. Thanks for the reply Legacy, even if it was kinda late. ahh well I think it's time this thread ended, I think we've all kinda moved on.
     
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