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A new threat?

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by TheKnightofAwesome, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    Yeah you're half right. The room Aqua put Ven in is also a room in Radient Garden. The worlds are literally connected. You'll notice the room in a KH2 Final Mix scene
     
  2. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Umm Ven's body is in Castle Oblivion.

    Terra is not completely gone.

    It's in Castle Oblivion.

    Well Eraquis's heart lies within Terra.
     
  3. Marquis

    Marquis New Member

    that's EXACTLY how I interpreted it

    i can't read japanese and i don't have a translator so I wouldn't have known that :rolleyes:
     
  4. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    The worlds aren't connected. The two rooms are completely separate. :)

    EDIT: Translators suck trust me.
     
  5. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    No your right. Ven's body is in Castle Oblivion in The Chamber of Waking(?) i think. as for Terra. His body will reappear when Master Xehanort comes back (according to the Re:Coded secret video). that said his heart will come back as well and his mind is still within the armor. all that needs to be done is to reunite the three parts to revive him. However for all this to happen Aqua must first be released from the Realm of Darkness (she is the Key to the revival of the other two). This will most likely happen in KH3. with the final death of Xehanort at the end. by this time Kairi will have somewhat mastered the Keyblade, Ven Terra, and Aqua will have been rescued, and Sora and Riku will have become Keyblade Masters (this is all just my prediction on what will happen). there is also no evidence against the idea that Xehanort will bring forth new creatures in order to help him achieve his goal of a new Keyblade War and control of Kingdom Hearts.
     
  6. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Everyone will be born from sleep. (As in Terra, Ven, Aqua, Ansem, possibly Roxas, Namine, and Xion) So it's not that complicated.
     
  7. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    about Ven being in Castle Oblivion, Ven was put in a room with a chair in the middle correct?
     
  8. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Sí that is correct.
     
  9. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    true It's not that complicated but I think in order for Terra to have his Birth by Sleep he needs to become whole again same with Ven. If there hearts remain separate from their bodies and minds they can never wake up.
     
  10. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    ok then. Look up KH2 FM scenes. There's a scene where Xemnas is in RADIENT GARDEN. He starts off in the room where the entrance to the Tron World is at. Things happen, yada yada yada, he then goes to that large room to the RIGHT of the computer. (You know, the one where Heartless FROM the Tron World came to Radient Garden?) In that room, where that huge circle is, there's an underground passage that Xemnas opened up. That passage leads to that EXACT SAME room Aqua put Ven in. BUT, instead of Ven being there, Aqua's armor was there. And Xemnas said something like, "Hello, my old friend." Hmm...so actually, Ven might be in neither Radient Garden AND/OR Castle Oblivion.
     
  11. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Hmm....could be.

    I've already seen them.

    Yeah and the passwords are the names of the orginal apprentice of Ansem the Wise.

    No i'm pretty sure that room is filled with Nobody symbols.

    Yup he said something like that in a sarcastic way.
    Nah, Ven is in Castle Oblivion let me explain why. The room you recall is in Radiant Garden which is called The Room of Repose. The Room of Repose is a room Xemnas created to regain his lost memories and talk to the armor. Xigbar has explained that he has heard another voice in the room with Xemnas raising the possibility that the armor is a lingering sentiment. Xemnas sent half the organization to Castle Oblivion in search of his "other friend" "The Room of Awakening" "Ven"! The organization could not find the room because Aqua sealed the world and they were lost in Oblivion.

    So basically what I'm saying........
    1. Xemnas created the Room of Repose so it can not be the same room.
    2. Xemnas sent half the organization in search for the Room of Awakening in Castle Oblivion.
    3. Ven is still locked in The Room of Awakening til Aqua unseals the world.
    Therefore the two rooms can not be connected the way you think they are.
     
  12. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    ok wait...WHAT? I know that all FM cut-scenes and secret bosses are cannon and all but...what!?!? so Aqua's armor is in Radiant Garden, that doesn't mean Ven isn't in Castle Oblivion. I mean hell we WATCHED Aqua turn Land of Departure into C.O. we also WATCHED her leave Ven in the hidden chamber. Clearly this means that Ven is in Castle Oblivion. However, I have no idea as to why Aqua's armor would be there. I guess she must have put it there when she went to look for Terra. After all she DID find him in Radiant Garden. Another thing this points to is that Xemnas got back his memories of being Xehanort (or possibly Terra?). Another thing to bring up is that the Unversed were a result of Vanitus right? So then If Ven comes back will Vanitus come back too and thus bring back the Unversed?
     
  13. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Aqua used her armor and keyblade glider to save Terra from the darkness but she couldn't go with him so she ended up in the realm of darkness. (This all took place in Radiant Garden btw) Braig took the armor and keyblade away and later Xemnas puts Aqua's things in the Room of Repose.
    Vanitas took over Ven's heart and they became one. Aqua defeated Ventus-Vanitas and Vanitas was no more. Ven had regain control of his heart because he went to Sora. So the odds are not likely.
     
  14. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    But why do the two rooms look the same? By watching the scenes they looked alike. Just that the FM scene had the Nobody symbol. Can you give me a source to where you read all that?
     
  15. ansemkiller

    ansemkiller New Member

    well if u think about it, they could make a so called "what-if" story of what would have happened and what would have happened in that time because if u think about it, even though all those villains were able to capture kingdom hearts, darkness cannot survive without light right? so if that were to happen, there would have to be another protagonist to fight the antagonist who might be the son/daughter or whatever of the villain that took over kingdom hearts
     
  16. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Umm...I'll gather up some.
    In a KH 2 FM Scene Xigbar talks to Zexion about the Room of Awakening. He tells Zexion that he heard voices in the Room and that Xemnas is looking for his "other friend" in Castle Oblivion.

    -Epiphany- I remember now, My sources are the Ansem Reports. In the Ansem Reports Xehanort/Ansem the Wise talk about a basement in Radiant Garden where he and his apprentices condulted experiements. This same basement is the one Xemnas goes into in KH2 FM. In the video there are multiple doors; those are where the apprentices condulted their experiments. Ansem's apprentices banished Ansem the Wise to the Realm of Darkness and took over the basement becoming nobodies which explains Zexion and Xigbar also being in the basement. This is why the password to enter are the orignal names of Ansem's apprentices.
    Ansem created the basement. Xemnas created The Room of Repose as an extension.
    Duh, I feel so stupid. I forgot the important part.
     
  17. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    wow...I read the reports but I never knew what Ansem the Wise was talking about. But weren't there 13 doors in the basement? I know Sora, Marluxia, Larxene, Demyx, and Luxord weren't apprentices. I counted 13 doors last time I watched the scene
     
  18. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    Though I highly doubt this is the case I bet the 13 doors are just eye candy to people who actually pay attention. you know like "ahh they have 13 doors and he's the leader of Organization XIII...i see what you did there". or something like that.
     
  19. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    who know? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll watch the scene again and recount the doors.
     
  20. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    So do you think Xehanort will return as he appeared in BBS or as he did after he took over Terra?
     

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