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A new threat?

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by TheKnightofAwesome, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    I don't know I still don't buy it. here's my logic: Xemnas tested Sora in KH1 because he would be the games new threat. well This to me is the same. MF is the new threat after Xehanort. and I don't understand how the fight with MF takes place at the beggining of the game as you say. what do you mean by that?
     
  2. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    That's fine, I'm conflicted myself. I know that it's some form of Xehanort.

    Sounds about right. Except that was in Final Mix so was Terra's sentiment.

    Now if you mean Xehanort in general then I totally disagree.
    I'm not to sure about that myself.

    But here's how I see it. The battle with "The Unknown" could not take place after the battle with Xehanort at the Keyblade Graveyard. Aqua does not revisit The Land of Departure. So her battle with "The Unknown had to take place right before or after the Mark of Mastery Exam.
     
  3. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    you see that's another thing where I think your wrong... The battle (I think) takes place right before the Keyblade Graveyard. Aqua may not revisit anytime before that time but she could still do it right before the battle. after all that's how it would work for someone who was playing the game you can't fight MF until the game is beaten.
     
  4. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Actually there's a timeline that shows you all the worlds TAV visited and revisited. Aqua doesn't go back to The Land of Departure. The only opportunity would be the beginning of the game.

    Yes he is only accessible when you beat the game. But it's likely because he is such a difficult boss.
     
  5. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    I agree with Knight about MF testing TAV. He has to be the next threat in either KH3 or BBS Vol. 2
     
  6. Roxion

    Roxion New Member

    actually, Aqua does revisit the land of departure. She goes there with Ventus' comatose body in the last part of the game. I know that this would not give her much time to confront the Mysterious Figure, but just thought I should mention it. As for when they all fight him, I don't know, maybe they just made a quick stop at the Land of Departure? I mean, it's not really specified when Sora fights Terra's Lingering Sentiment, only where.
     
  7. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    actually, MF isn't at the Land of Departure when you defeat Xehanort. Only before.
     
  8. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Yeah after the battle with Xehanort. Even then she wasn't at "The Submit"
    Yeah that's fine.

    Or is it?

    So your saying Vanitas Remnants is the next threat also!
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2011
  9. Roxion

    Roxion New Member

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....nope, don't think they ever make it clear when Sora fights him.
     
  10. ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    The Vanitus Remnants are just remnants of Vanitus that were destroyed by TAV. Don't twist my words -_-
     
  11. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    It would have to be the time before or after Sora enters The Timeless River!

    Ah so all 3 defeated his Remnant at different times. Why couldn't his Remnant be a new threat? If it was abled to be destroyed 3 different times then come back?
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2011
  12. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Talking about optional bosses being the new threat or not.
     
  13. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    ok wello why can't the MF be non related to Xehanort can you explain that Legacy?
     
  14. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    There are still 3 games til the end of the Xehanort Saga why add someone new not involving Xehanort. It makes no sense.

    I figure that "The Unknown" is some form of Xehanort. I really don't know if it's Master Xehanort, his sentiment, or his nobody if they do exist.

    Anyway I figure it's him.
    1. Birth by Sleep is about "Xehanort's memories".
    2. "The Unknown wields his blades similar to Ventus which his original Master was Xehanort, so I assume Xehanort taught his pupil to wield in a similar way.
    3. "The Unknown" wields blades similar to the Ethereal Blades.
    4. He wears a black coat which Master Xehanort is only seen wearing in Birth by Sleep.
    5. Nomura has said Xemnas may have had a keyblade but intentionally hasn't used it which raises the question could Master Xehanort do the same.
    6. Master Xehanort released his heart but his body and soul vanished either a sentiment or a nobody should have been created.
    7. Fast pace movement and advanced magic does describe Master Xehanort.
    I only see "The Unknown as only one person!"
     
  15. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    Well after that description, I willing to look into it. Both theories could easily be right. and as far as I'm concerned there are only 2 more games in the Xehanort saga. BBS vol. 2 and KH3. 3DS does not feature him. not sure who the final boss is but I don't think it's Xehanort.
     
  16. Noir

    Noir

    What? KH3 is in the Xehanort Saga, and it is possibly the end of the saga.
    3DS does feature him in the trailer, I think.
     
  17. Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Haha I'm rocking your World View.

    Possibly.
    Nope 3 games.

    And Dream Drop Distance.

    Actually Dream Drop Distance is about the data within Sora. Even this game has some form of Xehanort.
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  18. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    damn your right. I forgot about that part. ok it's official I'm an idiot. but I will still never give up!!!!
     
  19. Noir

    Noir

    Yes, bravo.
    Mr. Xehanort, COME OUT OF TERRA's body!
     
  20. TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

    Alright.... back to business. lets forget about the MF for a minute. I want to hear more theories on any kind of enemy you guys want to see in the future. I don't care what kind whether they be final boss, or just your average creature. but have a story to back it up. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!!!!
     

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