Fantastic 4 (2015)

Thoughts on the movie from those lurking out there in KHP land? I know there are people out there, mainly of the MCU fanboy or the "They Changed It, Now It Sucks" variety, who are hoping it tanks at the box office, but I think it looks like it could be pretty good. 'Course, I'm not a comics fan, never watched the movies with Jessica Alba and Chris Evans, and I'm also fairly easy to please, when you get right down to it, so I don't know if that's saying much.

I know there's been some internet outrage over the casting of a black guy as the Human Torch, but the guy seems like a good actor, and race changes don't usually bother me unless the character's appearance/race in the source material is harped upon often or it is plot/character relevant, so I couldn't care less what color the guy is. And as someone who is adopted, I like the idea of Sue being adopted as well.

I don't know much else about it right now, but I'm pretty sure I'll be checking this out when it hits theaters, since I see just about everything, and I wanted to know everyone else's thoughts on it, pro or con. Are you planning on seeing this film?

 

I don't necessarily watch action movies, so I wouldn't have looked into this movie if it wasn't for the "issue" that people are making an African American Human Torch out to be. I don't believe race to be an issue with this particular character, and I doubt his appearance could impact the story, so I believe it could slide by.

Now how about a "Female" Dr.Doom!

 

i heard theres a lot of controversy around this movie mainly because of casting. I mean im all about trying new things but for goodness sakes keep it true to the comic people!

 

What I do find somewhat annoying is when I feel like a character is being changed just so the movie casting will be PC, or to avoid the sort of bitching Shymalan's The Last Airbender (or more currently, Cameron Crowe's Aloha) received. If a character is a white male in the comics, and you race and gender bend him into a black female just so you can say you have a black female in your cast, that's really lame. Either go find a hero in the comics that fits your agenda, or if you can't find one, make an original character. Especially with comic book movies, or really, any adaptations with vocal fandoms, I think it's just kind of smart not to step on too many toes with the changes you make to the property. Some are necessary, but others aren't.

But! if there was a casting call for all males between a certain age, and Michael B. Jordan was the best actor and had the best chemistry with the other actors, then why not cast him? As Angel says, I don't feel like race is integral to the character of Johnny Storm. I personally would prefer a great performance from someone who might not look exactly as I picture a character, than a wooden, awful performance from an actor who is identical.

I would love a good female villain, but I'd prefer a character who was originally a woman. Though this reminds me that Doom in this movie is something else the haters are upset about. *shrugs*

 

Yeah, I've heard that the movie is being based off of the Ultimate comics as well. I don't think the character was black in them, though. If he was, I'd think less people would still be bitching about it.

There's obviously a double standard where it's not racism if it's against a white person. I can only speak for myself when I say that I at least would be as uncaring if a black character were turned white as I am at a white character turned black. There are way more fan nitpicky things I can find to be irritated by in adaptations.

These two both fall into my "their race is important to their characters" category. Storm is the descendent of African priestesses, the daughter of a princess of a tribe in Kenya (so sayeth Marvel wiki), and Black Panther is the king of an African nation. It doesn't really make sense for their stories for either of them to be white. Johnny Storm doesn't seem to be defined by being white, so I don't think the situations are comparable.