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Obama or Mccain

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by noir07, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. Obama wants to:

    1. Raise taxes
    2. Pull out of Iraq.
    3. Talk to the Terrorist leaders to bring about diplomacy. (Like talking with men of such evil will work,)
    4. He's Pro-choice (He's a baby killer)

    The only good thing about this election, is that we finally elected and African-American as president. I just wish he had better morals.
     
  2. ..........Uh-huh, now let me ask you something, did you get your ideas from your parents? If you did, then that's not good. Make a more valid argument.
     
  3. Fireflame

    Fireflame New Member

    I'm an Obama supporter. McCain doesn't make any sense and plus he picked PALIN for vice president. How stupid can you get? She was just there to try and win over the female supporters. Obama will actually do things to help this country like getting the troops out of Iraq to end a war that should never have been started. We trained Saddam it's our own fault.

    When McCain was like "Obama has been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania, etc, etc" I just laughed. McCain's not a total failure, he's pretty funny(watch the presidental roast if you haven't) he should persue a role as a comedian
     
  4. I did not get my info from my parents, I got that info by researching Obama.

    1.Obama wants to have diplomatic discussions with terrorist leaders. WTF, their evil and evil must be destroy, we have to fight them and destrory them.

    2. He's Pro-choice, he supports murder. He wants to allow mothers to abort their babies and that is murder.

    3. If he raises taxes then we will end up in another great depression.

    3. If we pull out of Iraq then the terrorist will take over again, and we will have to go in there again in about 10 years.
     
  5. From that post I know you have no good understanding of politics. For one, As of right now, the terrorist have no good grounds right now. We as a country have totally crushed the morale of the soldiers and the civilians. Two, I really don't give a damn about abortion, if you're for it, you're a bastard, and if you're not, then you're a bastard.

    Abortion is like the question, "Did the egg come first or the chicken?" it constantly goes on and on, so even bringing that up is totally pointless. Three, you believe that you'll get results immediately, this is totally impossible. If you insist on a new economy, it will take longer, especially since the energy crisi that is still going on. Four, We need to pull our Iraq. As a means of our "victory", we are still looking for Osama or whoever it was.

    For instance, you're one of the leaders of a top terrorist organization, why would you be in the front lines. He's probably in the another middle-eastern place where he can still give orders without being threatened.
     
  6. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Sephiroth, I can see you don't understand some things. I'll use this part specifically as an example.

    Clearly, you don't understand how they work. Those terrorists have a better reason to fight than we do. It's similar to after Pearl Harbor. We had a big reason to fight Japan, and that's why we beat them. But, the majority doesn't have that reason in Iraq. The terrorists, on the other hand, have that reason. That's why they won't give up until they've either won or died.

    And before you go on saying that we have that reason in Iraq, we don't. So don't even try saying we do.
     
  7. Dude, I'm not going to, all I'm tyring to get out is that we in some form have a hand on bat. However, the terrorist have one hand over our's.
     
  8. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    He won't pull us out. If he wanted to pull us out of Iraq, he'd do it within a few months, and don't tell me its impossible, 'cause its possible. If we can build a base in another country within a few months, we can pick up our stuff and leave to. This 16 month plan is to give him/other evil people in our government time to think of a way to make us saty there longer. It stalling.


    And as for Sephiroth, Obama sucks. He'z related to Bush and Cheney, he's keeping a bunch of Bushes people on, and he'z keeping us in Iraq for another 16 months. NO CHANGE!
    PALIN WAS MORE OF A CHANGE THAN OBAMA'Z PLAN FOR AMERICA!
     
  9. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    He does want to pull the troops out. But, it takes a long time considering how many we've put in. It would take more than a few months.
     
  10. Exactly, people (Republicans) do not understand that you cannot get a reform in a few months, that's outrageous.
     
  11. 1. Don't question my knowledge of politics.

    2. Abortion should be illegal because it's murdering an unborn child. You should care about all the unborn babies that have been slaughtered because of their mother's selfishness. This reason alone is enough to make Obama the wrong guy for president.

    3. This war is about more than Osama. This is about bringing peace to the middle east. We should win the war in Iraq and bring peace there, cause if we leave now then it will end up in chaos again. And then in 10 years we will have to go in there and fight another war.
     
  12. Hah! bullshit. So what you mean is that all women who want abortions are selfish. You obviously aren't a girl and neither am I but try to put yourself in their shoes. Let's say you get rapped, would you want to have the child of a rapist? What if you're trying to keep your family's economy and you get pregnant, wouldn't you want to get one?

    So how about Bush? He wasted just about all of our money on a war that was totally unnecessary. Yeah they hit us, then we hit them back, why don't we pull out?

    Why do we even get into these people's land? It's like General Custer, he goes and kills out an entire village for what? So they can get small shit-land as a peace offering? You are "politically" retared.
     
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  13. 1. Is it the baby's fault that it was conceived through rape? Does'nt it deserve the same right's to life as you and I? If a mother does'nt want it then give it to an adoption agency. But a mother should love her child.

    2. They hit us and we are suppose to ignore it and not get justice for all those killed on 9/11? The Terrorist must pay.

    3. We are trying to bring peace to Iraq because we want to try and bring about world peace.
     
  14. Avalantos

    Avalantos Mr. Detective

    Didn't 'Jesus' say turn the other cheek?
     
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  15. Yeah he did. But really Twilight, who is "we"? We never get a say in war, now do we? Bush came in, got his two-cents in, and then kept at it.
     
  16. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa...
    This'll be fun. You will see here that both Sephiroth and Twilight are wrong, and right. Its all about the delicate balance. If you choose a side, then you are wrong.
    Ron PAul would've had us out in a week or two. IT IS POSSIBLE!! Don't put limitations on ideals because they seem impossible. You see, thats what evil does, it puts the Just and Righteous into a box called FEAR.

    America is all about "outrageous". WE are radical. WE are a people of liberty. Like I said, if you can make a base in another country within a few days, then within a few weeks you can clean it all up and get out.

    I agree with you Twilight. ABORTION = MURDER

    Put your foot in our mouth boy! WE were NEVER supposed to get involved with a war thats been going on for CENTURIES!!!
    We either nuke'm, or leave 'em alone. Thats how you deal with the Middle East. It was never about "saving the Middle-East".....it was about oil and screwing with Russia.
    Shouldn't we try to fund "rape off our streets" programs instead of abortion facilities? Thats the real problem, but most abortion isn't because of rape. Its selfish women who don't want the child.
    We hit them first, thats why they attacked us on 9/11. quote from someone in the ME:"America's been hitting us for 10 years, and we finally hit them back, right to the face. And now they cry because of karma."
    America is becoming evil. People need to wake up.

    world peace is a Satanic belief. Because once we all serve one government, then its easier for them to control us all.

    EXACTLY PULSE!
    I agree with you.
     
  17. RoxasZ4

    RoxasZ4 New Member

    alright this might sounds racist well it is but i dont care. i was for Mccain all the way the reason is because all of the black people i would talk to is voting for mccain because hes black so i said i'll vote for mccain cause hes white i know thats not smart or nothing but if people are gunna start going by race i am too.
     
  18. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Look at your avatar and sig. Hypocrite and wigger. Race is a poor excuse for what you did. Actually look up the candidates views on topics next time dude.
     
  19. .....Uh-huh Mythrill. When did Ron Paul live again. Also, we are definitely not a nation of liberty. For Christ sake General Custer and his troops come in and kill out an entire village of Indians that have had that land for a while.

    Also Z4, Obama mainly won because had one thing that Mccain hardly had: Appeal. If you noted all of his speeches, every single stats for the final votes, Mccain, only appealed to the whites and people over 60+ that were probably white. Obama on the other had all votes from Mexicans, Blacks, whites, new voters, Arabs, and every other minority in this "Liberty" like nation.
     
  20. RoxasZ4

    RoxasZ4 New Member

    ok first of all dude lil wayne aint no president hes a rapper and i aint no wigger im a white boy and proud to be so dont be sayn that shit i cant stand when people that that stupid shit.
     

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