Abortion

I agree. Abortion is virtually murder, even if it is to an embryo, and murder is a sin. If under extreme circumstances someone was to get pregnant (e.g. raped) when they are a teenager and having this baby would stop all their dreams from becoming possibilities then I would tell them to just put the baby up for adaoption as soon as its born so you don't get too attached and you aren't killing life that way.

 

Thats rediculous "So you don't get too attatched" to this human being that is your own flesh and blood. In reply to demon, I didn't say all kids in the adoption system or doomed - If a child is lucky enough to go to a family of course theres no reason they can't turn out well.

There is a stage before 21 weeks when it is essentially still considered to be cells and not a sentient being. That is why abortions after this time are rarely carried out, due to to the moral complications that arise.

 

O'k, I have had enough. We all know that abortion is just an escape root for irresponsible dumb asses that want to fuck around. It's also an excuse for people who care so much for their job that they lost their morals. As for rape cases, just put it up for adoption, as long as the baby lives that is all that matters.

You liberals, say we're selfish and bring up all these "What if" scenarios, but we all know that those who support abortion are the same ones that voted for Obama an anyone who voted for Obama is stupid.

Let's face it, Christians and conservitives are right nearly everytime and Liberals and Athesist are wrongv most of the time. So who cares what athesist and liberals say, as long as conservitives get their way that is all that matters. Because the conservitive way is the american way.

 

I sure do hope you're being ironic.

If not, some may say (pun most certainly intended) you're being very liberal with your insults. "Anyone who voted for Obama is stupid". In all honesty my good sir, if you are so close minded, you have no place in an educated debate. Nonetheless, as the old adage goes "I may not agree with what you're saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". At least show other human beings the common courtesy of respect. Not everyone believes the same thing, and you have a long way to mature if your so asinine as to believe anybody who's opinion or beleifs differ from yours is stupid, ignorant or just plain wrong. There is no certainty in this world, and you would do well to remember that.

 

Here is the thing, I don't like liberals and I don't like Obama so guess what? I want all of them to fail. I hope Obama fails them mabey the people who voted for him will get some brains and vote for moraly just conservitives.

Oh I called liberals stupid, grow up you bunch of cowards. You guys voted for the guy, it's all your fault that he is making this bull shit of a stimulis package.
I'm sorry but some people are stupid and some people are wrong. Those people are liberals.

 

Being Welsh I don't understand American politics too well, but I don't have to to agree with everything in this post.
Had a few too many drinks tonight but I love the highlighted part.

.BB, you should have been around when these people tried to convince me that pictures of Gods face in the 9/11 smoke was scientific evidence of his existence...

 

There is no talking to liberals. Your all thick headed cowards. Just let the moraly rigtheous people handle things while you pathetic liberals whine about it. I've just turned a depth ear to liberals, because I am going to do everything to make this country completely conservitive wether you like it or not. So if abortion is made illegal then guess what? You can whine about it all you want, i'll just laugh at your pathetic cries.

 

Hahah ahh yeah mate, it's utterly rediculous. But then I guess we brought this upon ourselves, having a serious debate section on a predominatly disney forum.

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No talking to liberals? That's rich, you come in and denounce everything i've said as adulterated lies, say i'm wrong - end of and then call me an idiot. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Now aside from that, i'm not liberal, i'm reasonable.

 

Urban Dictionary: thick headed

No Sir, I believe that describes you perfectly...

 

Ha, and your cowardness has no bounds. You liberals have no courage. You refuse to fight because you have nothing to fight for. You deny God because your afraid of having to be responsible for your actions. You have no morals because your so caught up in your logic to see the difference between right and wrong, good and evil.

You call me closed minded yet you only look at this debate from one point of veiw, that being the mother.

But have you considered the pain of the fetus? The father? God?

No, because you are irresponsible, and without morals. People like you can either accept conservitive veiws or be left in the dust of history. Because I have had enough of liberal views, that way of thinking will soon die.

 

I will only entertain some of the faults in your last post, because quite frankly I don't wish to spend the next hour picking your posts apart.

- I am quite happy to take responsibility for my actions.
- Caught up in our logic to see what is right and wrong? My dear sir, that is precisely what we use to differentiate between the two.
- I look at it from all points of view, and in fact even understand the stance you have taken, however I argue for what I beleive in.
- Research has shown the foetus can not actually feel, and is essentially not a sentient being before 21 weeks.
- God is a transcendenat being, beyond comprehension. Please don't be so arrogant as to say you can understand his viewpoint.

I am perfectly responsible and I have morals. You say conservative views are the way forward? That liberals will soon die out? Well then please account for how virtually no one approves of your last conservative president and have amazing hopes for the new, liberal one. You have a black president, and your still so obstinate as to suggest that a liberal view is dying out?

 

Amazing hopes for our liberal president? I knew he would be a failure and he is turning out to be one. Beisdes the man took restrictions off abortion, that makes him evil. He is responsible for thousands of deaths now.

You are very blind. You see everything from a scientific point of veiw. What about a human point of veiw. Do you not understand that abortion is an abomination of the human race. Our universal goal is to survive and yet we kill our own babies. By supporting abortion you are a hipocrite of your own humanity.

 

Wow, this really is not what we're trying to do okay? When a person says that they are Pro-Choice, they are not agreeing with the killing of the fetus. We are only saying that it's the persons right to do what they feel is right. Even according to medical documents, the fetus is not considered human until the ninth month of pregnancy.

 

I was going to say something, but I'll leave this to .BB.

Aborting is not killing.

 

I believe it is and it's not at the same time.

 

Alright, I can no longer be bothered to entertain the points Twilight is making, they're rediculous at best. Abortion is killing (technically), but it isn't murder. Would you consider the destruction of a single celled amoeba murder? Would you consider the killing of a thousand a genocide?

 

A thousand of what? Genocide has to do with the killing of a set of people.

 

Aye, I'm well aware. Thats the comparison i'm making.
Amoeba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you call the killing of one of those murder? If so, then surely exterminating thousands or millions would be a genocide.

The parallel i'm tying to draw is with abortion. Before (I believe it's) 21 weeks, the foetus is simply a collection of cells.

 

Don't bother, they won't accept the truth. I've been trying for a long time, they just don't understand, or don't want to understand.

 

You really don't get what i'm saying. Abortion is just an excuse to not raise a child because liberals are lazy. I don't care if you like it or not, I will do everything to make it illegal and I don't care if it's selfish, it's the right thing to do. I want to save the lives of millions of innocent babies and damn it, I will try to do it or die trying.