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Open Minded Vs. Closed Minded

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by Yukie, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. Lithium

    Lithium New Member

    Are you that depraved? It's in human nature to express those feelings. You're basically saying rob everyone of choice of how they should feel. Without pain there is no joy and vice versa. And the eradication to the so called "evil" really shows how ignorant you really are.

    [EDIT]

    Probably super late to the convo as always.
     
  2. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    But humans are so imperfect and isn't perfection the best. And isn't the best what we should want?

    Why do you care so much about your humanity, because you are human you will one day die, you are always going to have internal conflicts, and humans will always fight.

    Personaly I hate being human. I hate having all these limits. I can't understand what being human is about?

    What is humanity? Why do people hold it so dearly? To me being human is just another weakness. Being human prevents one from understanding everything.

    Why isn't everyone a genius? I mean why are humans so stupid? Why are some so kind yet others are so selfish. Why are some this way and others another way? Why are some smarter than others and some could care less about knowledge?

    I suppose in some ways I must hate myself. If I hate my own humanity then how could I ever understand someone else.

    I can't stand to be around friends and I can't stand to be around my own family. I suppose the reason why is because I hate their differences. It causes conflict. If they were all the same then conflict would not exist.

    Sometimes I wish I was dead so I wouldn't have to live with being human and living in an imperfect world.

    But aren't you tired of bad things happening?
     
  3. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    Alright then, if you don't like having differences with people, oh well.

    Even though you may experience differences, it doesn't always lead to conflict. We also aren't meant to understand everything. I actually read a poem recently in which it warned that knowing 'too much' about the world prevents us from truly living, because the world is naturally meant to be enigmatic.

    I think that you need to get over yourself. If everything was the same, you'd be bored out of your mind, and there'd be no point in living. I honestly hope you find happiness somewhere because you're allowing the nonconformity around you to cause you emotional stress. This is why it's best to be more open with yourself and the world around you.

    If the stream has no rocks, the stream has no song.
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2009
  4. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    You don't understand. If I try to get along with a person who is gay or had an abortion then I would be betraying my God and my morals.

    I'm caught between my morals and my freedom. If I choose to be free, to let myself be human then I will loose all my morals and be a bad person. If I keep to my morals I will never be free, constantly tied down to always trying to be good.

    I would love to do fun stuff but how can I when I know there are people hurting? If I get rid of the hurt then we can all live good lives.

    Tell me how you can sleep well at night knowing someone just died somewhere or knowing that somone just lost their home or someone is in a village in the middle east being slaughtered by terrorist? How does this not make you sad? How can you go each day knowing people are hurting? Tell me how you do it?
     
  5. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    Because everyone always dies, every moment you breathe. There will never be a world without suffering in some sense. It happens with humans and animals alike. While there is death, there is also one new life that is created when a mother gives birth to a child.

    And a lot of American soldiers are actually the ones that are torturing innocent civilians and bombing towns simply because of an order of an alleged terrorist to be hiding there. The whole war on 'terror' is a false imprint created to keep this country living in fear. Terrorists do undoubtedly exist, but this country does far more damage than any individual terrorist has ever done themselves. Just thought I'd inform you on that.

    You are also only confined and put in chains by your mind.
    Morals don't do that, only your perception of them gives them that ability.
     
  6. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    But all this pain, doesn't it every get to be too much. I mean if we live good lives while someone else is suffering isn't it selfish.

    I'm not trying to sound stupid, I just want to understand. Explain this to me?
     
  7. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    It isn't selfish, actually because we aren't in control of what happens to them. We could try to get into politics or create foundations to help assist the people whom we can't reach if they're in need, but we're not meant to save everyone.

    Believe me, if there was a way..I'd help out every single person that's in some sort of pain. That's genuinely a reason why I don't mind opening myself to new people and why people find it so easy to talk to me. Even though I can't befriend every person on Earth, I do what I can by making sure I'm available to anyone that wants to reach out to me, or I do so to them.

    Suffering is essentially part of the human experience. It can range from someone losing a limb, to being brutally murdered, losing a loved one, having a heart break, or losing contact with someone that they're close to. It's one of the universal traits that keep us human..because it keeps us in tact with the fact that we're still alive and able to make contact with our emotions.

    We're not meant to keep to ourselves. I think we're actually meant to extend ourselves to each other to help those in need, or even just to befriend someone unexpectedly. One of the main things that we share is that everyone is able to 'love'.

    That's all we need.
     
  8. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    See I can't understand that. I'm not a person people want to be around, I guess i'm kinda scary. I can't joke or be a friend, and everytime I do love something I loose it.

    I don't know how to be human.
     
  9. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    If I could hug you now for a few minutes, I honestly would.

    I don't say that out of sarcasm, I say that because I care about what you're going through.
     
  10. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Sometimes I think all that can feel now is negative stuff. Maybe I even think love is a weakness. I can't understand what humanity is about.
     
  11. Lithium

    Lithium New Member

    I honestly didn't see that coming from you, Kammy.


    Not in the least bit, hence: "Without pain there is no joy and vice versa."

    Not sure where that ties in, but it certainly isn't. It only becomes a weakness if you allow it to be.
     
  12. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    SK, feel free to contact me whenever, alright?

    My contact info's in my profile here, sunshine <3
     
  13. Soul Knight

    Soul Knight Guest

    Thank you.
     
  14. Figure.09

    Figure.09 New Member

    Correction:

    "If I get rid of MY hurt then we can all live good lives."

    Stop being selfish.

    EDIT: thus isn't a troll right? XD
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2009
  15. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    . . . . Which, ipsofactovisaversaconcordantly reinforces the theory of Yin and Yang. Damn, I came in late. Oh well, i got a good philispohical read out of this.
     
  16. Mythril Roxas

    Mythril Roxas New Member

    Wow i missed a lot.

    Autospy your just a sick Nazi/Communist, I havent read your posts Fig other than you said u agree with Autopsy and if u really do then we are in disagreement.

    Soul Knight its nice when you talk about "saving the world from evil" and stuff, but seriously, get out of the fantasy world. There will always be good and evil in this world. So what is the goal in life? To get out of the on going war.

    Moogle brings up a great point. Yin and Yang man, thats were the truth is at.
     
  17. Autopsy

    Autopsy #3 Nelliel Tu Oderschvank

    How am I a Nazi and a Communist?

    And coming back to just throw an insult instead of a reasonable argument never helps anything.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2009
  18. Figure.09

    Figure.09 New Member

    I can't see how I'm a nazi/communist either. Simply making a point, no need to generalize my opinion.
     
  19. dualblade

    dualblade Break!

    How did we get to this?Well,it kinda has to do with,still somewhat relevent.I myself believe that so long as their are good things,so will their be bad.Its not really a counterbalance,but rather that not everything is one thing or the other.If you go before just the One God of Christianity you have the Greek Gods who were not exactly perfect themselves,just able to get away with more things.And punish mortals for doing those same things,so technically you could say that many humans are not that bad.Oh,and I really dont see how Autopsy and Figure or nazi/communist.Plus they would hate themselves,Nazis and Communists didnt exactly get along
     
  20. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    Nazi's are socialists, I believe. Just sayin'. It's also not very mature to call somebody a Nazi just because their viewpoint is different from yours.
     

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