Celestial Weapons

Which did you think were the hardest to get/upgrade? The easiest? Were they worth the effort it takes to get them? And so on.

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Hmm, the hardest for me to power up were Lulu's Onion Knight, Tidus' Caladbolg, and Kimahri's Spirit Lance. Dodging the 200 lightning bolts for the Venus Sigil was bad on my eyes after a while, and just generally frustrating (since there were a couple times when I'd get real close to 200, screw up, and have to start all over again). And the Sun Sigil was just as frustrating. I really wanted to punch out the chocobo trainer after a while. Why did my chocobo insist on running so stupidly and wobbly, anyway? The whole point of going through the other exercises to "train" him was so that he'd behave himself and run properly. And seriously, how freaking stupid were those damn birds, that they'd keep crashing into a huge bright yellow bird/thing? And as for Kimahri's weapon, I've yet to ever fully upgrade that one. Butterflies suck.

I thought Yuna's Nirvana was an easy weapon to obtain and upgrade. Rikku's Godhand was pretty easy as well.

Were the weapons worth it? Generally, I'd say yes, since it saved me the effort of gathering enough items to customize my own. However, for some of the weapons, I would have prefered to see some different abilities. Like Rikku's Godhand, for instance. What business does the Gillionaire ability have being on an ultimate weapon? What a waste of a slot. v_v

 

Heh, nothing against the Gillionaire ability, though I have to say that I always had plenty of gil, without needing to use it. But I can think of other abilities that would be far more useful on an ultimate weapon, like Evade & Counter.

 

On my latest playthrough, I had a much easier time getting the Sun Sigil as well. I think it took me maybe an hour, but my first playthrough, it took forever. With Lulu's sigil, I usually run up and down the little hill on the screen right after the travel agency. Dodging the bolts isn't really hard, it's just that after a while my eyes start to hurt. I usually pause and take a few breaks when I do it. With Kimahri, I never put the best effort into it because I knew I'd never use Kimahri in a fight that mattered. On my last playthrough, I did do the butterfly thing, but apparently you're supposed to do it after you get the airship if you want the sigil, and I couldn't be bothered to go back.

I thought One MP Cost was a wasted slot, actually. I used quick hit all the time facing bosses, and with my strength stats high enough, I don't remember running out of MP and needing ethers before the end of a battle.

 

The strikes also seem to come very regularly, which makes it easier. This is the spot I always use.

Then I'm glad I never went back and tried again. Kimahri never had a spot in the line-up against any of the bosses I faced after Yunalesca, so it didn't end up mattering. Auron, Yuna, and Tidus were the Monster Arena/Final Boss party.

Did you try reseting your team data? It's a pain, but once you do that a few times, the Sigil will usually appear. Or if you don't want to do that, I've heard that if you finish up a league, click "Back" instead of "Continue to play blitzball", save your game, and then look to see what the next league prize is, if it isn't the Sigil you can keep resetting the game until it appears.

 

Really, I'm not so sure about this, because it seems like I tried to do it as well, and the Sigil never did come up. >_<

My teams have alway been sucky, basically just the Aurochs with the bare minimum abilities. So this was never that painful for me.

So, to continue the discussion (so bored), does anyone think the weapons and accessories were too difficult (or obscure) to find? I'd somehow or another spoiled this for myself before I got to this time in my first playthrough, so I already knew where to get ahold of the cloudy mirror, how to turn it into the Celestial Mirror, and a general idea of where/how to find everything. But if I hadn't known ahead of time, I don't know if I would have raced chocobos in Remiem Temple and gotten the cloudy mirror (being fed up with chocobos just from the normal training sessions), and I know I would never have thought to try for less than 0.00 seconds against the chocobo trainer for the sun sigil, or dodged any, let alone 200, lightning bolts for the venus sigil.

I don't mind having to work to earn the ultimate weapons. But it almost seems like someone would have had to be really, really bored to find some of these on their own.

 

I think One MP Cost is useless on all of the ultimate weapons, really. I was just never that lacking in max MP to need it in battle.

Really, what you're saying doesn't just apply to Rikku, because you could have made any character a mage, and if you were planning on fighting with magic, a One Mp Cost weapon would be useful. I'm a physical attacker, and would have prefered all of the ultimate weapons to have Break Damage Limit, Evade and Counter, Triple Overdrive (though this isn't even that crucial, since I quick hit everything), and Magic Counter. Break Damage Limit is a given. With Evade and Counter, the 'evade' part doesn't work so well against the super bosses, but the counter would help the damage pile on quicker. Same reasoning for the Magic Counter ability. And Triple Overdrive I chose because I can't think of anything else handier, but getting overdrives three times quicker can't be a bad thing.

It just depends on how you play the game. I suppose in a challenge game, even the abilities I find an especial waste on an ultimate weapon, like Gillionaire, can become useful.