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What Makes A Good Weapon: Best Weapons Revived

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by EtherealSummoner, Feb 20, 2012.

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  1. Feb 20, 2012 #1
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    The thread used to be "Best Weapons" but I decided to rename the thread. Well, I am curious about the weapons that all of you favor after. Which weapon do you think is the best, is your favorite, or you think outbest? Why do you really like that weapon? Is it the greatest in your opinion or not? Why do some of the weapons cost so much? What about Weapons of Mass Destructions?

    Now as for me, I am very curious about the bow and the cross bow; traditionally and modern. More so with the Crossbow since even the Crossbows are still used today in the United States and in other parts of the world (XD In actuality, I blame Odin Sphere and Fiesta for making me have an interest in the CrossBow). So much force and accuracy; you will have to deal with the weight and for being clumsy. I do not mind being clumsy with the weapon.
     
  2. Feb 20, 2012 #2
    DarkAngel

    DarkAngel Banned

    my favorit wepon out of all others would have to be a sythe
     
  3. Feb 20, 2012 #3
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    XD You mean a scythe. Ugh...a "Farming death weapon". XD It is used more for farming now in the fields though hahaha! Why in the world do you want to choose that?
     
  4. Feb 20, 2012 #4
    DarkAngel

    DarkAngel Banned

    its long enough for me to use long range attacks, as well as sharp enough to slice through anything I want it to if I sharpen it just right, not to mention... ... ...well lets just saypeople in my old naborhoods call me "The Death Reaper"...don't ask me why...but my favorit verson of the scythe is known as a "Death Scythe"
     
  5. Feb 20, 2012 #5
    Cameron

    Cameron New Member

    Ugh, seriously Brandon, most your "debates" belong in Member Lounge, especially this one... This thread can become spammy way too easily. Ask someone to move it, please.

    The best weapon of choice really depends on which era the people lived in. If talking all the way back when people started to invent more weapons and fighting styles, one weapon had certain advantages over other. Let's say a spear against a sword. Clearly the person who held the spear had the advantage with the range he used, so he could keep the fighter with the sword at bay, if he was talented enough to use it well.

    If I had to say about old weapons, by far my "favorite" weapon has to be the Nodachi. A very efficient weapon against cavalry units, if used well.

    But yeah, if talked about the strongest weapon, it's nuclear bombs or some mass destruction weapons of modern day. End of discussion. What a debate.

    Kid, this isn't the roleplay-section. Scythe was a weapon used by the common folk for self-defense and it was slow and sloppy weapon that rarely scored a kill. The RPG and fantasy games make people think that it's a very useful weapon and fool people too easily about the usefulness of some historical weapons.
     
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  6. Feb 20, 2012 #6
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    It will not become spammy if the members do not make it spammy. And I agree with Noz Desifer. Do not include fantasy with this please. But as for spears, I have a problem with that. The first thing is what kind of spear you are using. Is it the type of spear that is for thrusting or is it the type of spear for throwing? As for the Nodachi, if you cannot handle the size and weight of it, then you are out of luck and you should not even bother using it, especially since it is requires more talent to not only have the strength to wield one but to also create one. And besides, there are better weapons than the Nodachi that you can use to counter against cavalry armies. In my opinion, I do not think of that as a good weapon but I guess that is because I am not much of a "heavy" type of person.
     
  7. Feb 20, 2012 #7
    DarkAngel

    DarkAngel Banned

    I ain't!!! I realy do like to use scythes more then anything...I even have one on desplay at my house
     
  8. Feb 20, 2012 #8
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    No weapon is mightier than one's own body. I know that the martial arts group I've been with lately is adamant about learning the basics of the body before even allowing anyone to study a weapon. If you can't use the body as a weapon, then why bother learning to use a weapon as a weapon?

    That is of course, sticking to the "old weapons" train of thought.


    Pretty much what I've come to understand on the matter.^
     
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  9. Feb 20, 2012 #9
    DarkAngel

    DarkAngel Banned

    ... ... ...dude ever heard the expresion "The pen is mightier then the sord"?
     
  10. Feb 20, 2012 #10
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    We're not talking philosophically here though. We're talking, physically, what is the greatest weapon. I'm pretty sure of that.
     
  11. Feb 20, 2012 #11
    DarkAngel

    DarkAngel Banned

    I know that but think about the saying...if "The pen is mightier then the sord" then isn't there always a weapon that is mightier then the human body?
     
  12. Feb 20, 2012 #12
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    Ok Desifer. If you say so. As for you Wayward, ok. Let us put it this way. If you want to use the body as a weapon, then what are you going to use on your body to help defend yourself? It is obvious that the hand/fist is one form of weapon to use in combat. The leg is good enough to use for range and then there is the head but if you "Use your head", you might end up damaging brain cells. You have your elbows too but they are short and they are hardly used in street fights (The ones that I have been seeing anyways, including at school). All you are left with is to control your body for balance and to focus power through other parts of your body in order to add force to the hand, leg or head or elbow.
     
  13. Feb 20, 2012 #13
    Cameron

    Cameron New Member

    I said it only as an example to show how some weapons (when talking about older weapons) have advantages over each other, explaining that a spear had much better range that a sword had. Which part do you not understand?

    There I was talking about my favorite weapon. It's not the best when fighting the cavalry, I know it - but it was efficient in the past Japan when they used it against cavalry. It's obvious that you have to know how to use a weapon to use it efficiently.

    And Desifer, you're way too childish and dreamy for a topic like this, of course you're talking about fantasy when you say that you were called "The Death Reaper" in some old neighborhood of yours. You're clearly making stuff up. "Death Scythe"? Mature up a little before writing in threads like these, if it's not in the Fun & Games section, even though that this isn't a real debate.

    Good point there, mate.
     
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  14. Feb 20, 2012 #14
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    What do you think the cornerstone of any martial art is? Using the body as one's body as a weapon to defend oneself. Trust me, the parts of the body you listed can be used to various effects. There's more than just punches, kicks, elbowing, kneeing, etc. Throwing, tripping, disarming. A guy I know who studies Judo knows an effective way to essentially break his own fall.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2012 #15
    Cameron

    Cameron New Member

    It's true that martial arts that use weapons in their training usually start with knowing how to control your body and use it in combat before even touching a weapon at the dojo/gym. If you don't know how to control your body and strength, using weapons will not prove as efficient as it would when you know the basics of a certain martial art.
     
  16. Feb 20, 2012 #16
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    @Noz. I know that you made it an example. I was merely stating the weakness of a spear in that example. XD I understood.

    @Wayward I know what you mean Wayward. I do trust you on the part that the body can be used as a weapon and that there are various ways to use the body effective. However, what if the person is not experience with the body but is able to use a weapon like... a bow or a gun for example. Does that mean that they are unable to actually use the "Full" power out of a weapon at all? Now as for me for example, I am pretty well good in being able to hold my own with my body in defense and evasion; however, I never used my elbows in a fight because I never even thought about using it in battle and right now, I practice never looking away whenever I get hit in the face. I am pretty average with a sword too but even so, I mainly will be using my own body as a weapon. I am not so good with a knife since it just does not feel right to even fight with one. Now does that merely means that how you develop your body shows how well you can use a weapon?
     
  17. Feb 21, 2012 #17
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    The idea, as I understand, is that the more effectively you can fight without a weapon, then the easier it becomes to pick up a weapon and use it. I'd say that the transition from unarmed to armed is an easy one to make.
     
  18. Feb 21, 2012 #18
    EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    I guess a policemen who only practice using a gun and has been practicing on their rounds but yet treat their bodies to some... junk food will not be effective themselves because of the way how they treat their body. I can agree that the body can be used as a weapon but how would that stand against any other weapon like a knife or a gun for example? The body do protect your life.
     
  19. Feb 21, 2012 #19
    Cameron

    Cameron New Member

    It's true that you can't stop a bullet, but if you're good at martial arts, stopping a knife or some other weapons is not a problem. Of course if you get hit, it's a whole different story but I think you're missing the point Brandon.
     
  20. Feb 21, 2012 #20
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    A knife is no problem. There are ways to block stabs and knock away slashing. Guns are a different beast though. It really depends who's using them, what they're using, and how they're using them. A gunman gets you at point blank, there are ways to disarm them of the weapon.
     
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