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Public Employees in Wisconsin Losing Union Rights

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Destiny, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. Feb 23, 2011 #1
    Destiny

    Destiny Guest

    Last week the governor of Wisconsin, Republican Scott Walker, announced he was removing some of the rights from public employees such as police officers, teachers, fire fighters, nurses etc. One right, which is a power of the unions and employers, is the bargaining right.

    The bargaining right allows employees able to negotiate with employers for rights such as better health care, higher paychecks, money if they go back to college for higher degrees, etc.

    Gov. Walker and other republican legislature party members want to "sap the power" of public employees, especially teachers due to public education beige the mostly costly.

    Teachers were enraged and last week teachers, and many other public employees, protested to support public education.

    http://m.cnn.com/primary/_i90GVo-i8NybwrbYSf
     
  2. Feb 23, 2011 #2
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    wow that's complete BS. Let them keep their rights. I don't see a problem with the Bargaining right. It makes sense right?
     
  3. Feb 23, 2011 #3
    Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    It doesn't seem quite right to try to reduce these workers' benefits because of the expense while at the same time giving tax breaks to businesses, even though as a business owner I'm all for getting some of those breaks. XD

    However, I disagree with the tone of the article and the idea that teachers are being unfairly demonized. I don't think teachers can be blamed for every reason students fail, but they need to take some responsibility. The public education system around here (which is the only I feel I can really comment on, since I'm familiar with it) sucks. I know more than a few adults who've graduated from the local high school yet don't know how to read. The kids who come to my center after school hardly ever have any homework and seem to spend more time watching movies or having seasonal parties than anything else. Kentucky is not exactly the pride of the US, but I doubt that we are alone in this. Taking away more of the teachers' rights, though, hardly seems the right way to motivate them to try harder.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2011 #4
    Haresuno

    Haresuno KH-3's Übermensch

    I used to live in WI and many of my friends are getting angry over this. At the same time my father (who is a union breaker; a person who goes in place of unions when they strike, so a scab pretty much) is angry with them for throwing a fit.

    While I haven't had proper time to read up on all the facts, as it stands the current WI education system varies from place to place. In Portage I found hardly any motivation to do any work and I saw no signs that any of the teachers cared about the students and their success.

    When I moved to Lodi, however, it was a complete 180. Then again it was a fairly smaller place in comparison.

    Personally I would recommend people looking at all the benefits and scale of pay that any teacher, fire fighter, or other public employees, then read the legislation which is trying to get passed for yourselves before taking sides.

    A part of me wants to take a stand for the teachers who helped me, but the other is wanting the full story before I step left or right.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2011 #5
    Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    Happy to say Hare that I'm still here in wisconsin to provide that insight.

    Just recently I got a job in a gas station so I get a lot of people coming to protest. Teachers aren't even the half of it. City workers, postal workers, and essentially just about every single person in a union is threatened by this. If walker manages to pass this, and it looks like he very well might, he can have a chance to fire on every union in our state and everyone else will to. In the USA today we are mentioned as something to watch as these events unfold. For now though the bill is stuck because all of the democratic party members left for Illinois and won't come back till they are allowed to speak on this bill or walker gets out. You see, Walker promised to let several representatives from both parties speak. He cut those off in the middle of his own party and won't allow any more talks. Also he refuses to compromise which is essentially his job.
     

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