The origins of the Heartless

before X3pic fires on you, i will explain:

in the ansuem reports it tells this, you got to read them, he found them in the basement lab. or in a more better way:
The Heartless are actually hearts corrupted by darkness, lacking a body or soul. They are named "Heartless" for their total lack of emotional capacity. Originally, there were only Pureblood Heartless, black shadow creatures that lacked hearts who were born of pure darkness. They are native to the Realm of Darkness, and were non-existent in the Realm of Light. Early experiments by Ansem the Wise and his apprentices into the capacity of the heart lead to the opening of a door the Realm of Darkness, leading to the creation of Heartless in the Realm of Light.

While researching these Pureblood Heartless, Xehanort and Ansem's other apprentices devised the means to create the artificial Emblem Heartless via the corruption of living hearts. Unlike the Purebloods, which dissolve into black smoke when defeated, Emblem Heartless release a heart once defeated. unless the Keyblade was used to defeat the Heartless, the stolen hearts go off into the Realm of Darkness and the Heartless are recreated. Ordinarily, the Heartless are mindless and function on instinct, but they obey those with strong will. However, in worlds closer to darkness, the Heartless are stronger and become uncontrollable. They invade worlds through corridors of darkness, which are unpredictable pathways that interlink the many worlds.

 

For the purebloods,I currently believe that they have not always existed,depending on whether the story of Kingdom Hearts (The one Kairi's grandmother told her) is true,then at one point there were no Heartless,and maybe not even a Realm of Darkness.When darkness took hold the Heartless came to be,possibly being the reason why the orignal world was destroyed,though saved by the light of children.

For the theory about Master Xehanort summoning them to the Realm of Light,is the keyblade Graveyard in the Realm of Light,Dark,or a different Realm?It would help with figuring it out,though I am guessing somewhere in the same Realm as Twilight Town (I cannot remember the exact name for it,Im thinking Realm of InBetween for some reason)

 

Why would x3pic attack him? Zenrot is right. Master Xehanort created Vanitas after Ven was knocked out by Neoshadows. Master Xehanort summoned the Neoshadows to the Keyblade Graveyard and had Ven fight them. But he failed.

Even though in the game Xemnas says Ansem is responsible for the heartless, that doesn't quite mean he created them. They created the Emblem heartless, yes. But has anybody ever once considered that the heartless exsisted beforehand, and that once Emblem heartless were created the heartless became a threat? I'm doubting many people have thought of that.

 

Hm you may want to change the title of this and add "SPOILERS!!"
anywhom *ponders*
Well I'm sure you know the difference between pure blooded heartless and an artificial one is correct?
so with that being said, here i go. this is really just a theory, though, but it makes sense almost perfectly.
Well we know AtW for sure didn't make the Neo-Shadows, unless this happened before the events of BBS. So my guess is AtW or His Apprentices created the first Artificial Heartless.
Why do i say this?
AtW and his apprentices studied hearts, and messed with them correct? yes
this studying of the heart could have led to the first ARTIFICIAL heartless to be created.
hm you do remember in Kingdom hearts 1, when Dr. Finklestein was experimenting with hearts, and he created the heartless in Halloween Town (sort of, but not really ), Well i guess you could say AtW and his apprentices did the same thing, but to Raident Garden, and then the Artifical Heartless started spreading to other worlds, as it his said in Fake Ansems Reports.
Also I'm pretty sure Xehanort is the creator of Artifical heartless..not AtW.
My belief is that they have always existed, and that Ansem the Wise merely provided their entrance into the Realm of Light.

Also you understand what im saying im sure, also i would have, if he didn't post a legit topic, but he did.

 

i'd think it was the former

since they thought they created the heartless, they'd have never thought that they opened the door to darkness

 

real heartless are in small numbers, the real heartless are like neo shadows, and those small ones, the others just died out, that's why the fake ones are around much more, in bbs is shows that most of the bosses are like those that we face in kh, the fake ones are just replicas with something added to them.

 

Since it is the Emblem heartless that release hearts when killed, I think it is reasonable to believe that Pureblood heartless are just pure darkness taking shape. And yes, all heartless are like that. But I say that Purebloods are like that because if Emblem heartless release hearts, then logically they'd have hearts inside them that were stolen from other people.

Who here didn't understand what I said? Due to grammatical errors or something.

 

hmm, well wasn't it confirmed that heartless didn't exist during the time of bbs? yet we see them at the end of bbs, so im guessing sometime during the end of bbs and AtW's start as DiZ, did the first heartless truly come alive. So im guessing when AtW was sent away by his apprentices, some type of portal between realms opened. or maybe before that

 

On the hearts that were released becoming Shadows from Kingdom Hearts, I believe that it is because an Emblem heartless has to take someones heart in order for that heart to be used for another emblem heartless,or someone else has too.Hearts that are released not be an Enblem Heartless or someone trying to create the enblem heartless might not create an Enblem heartless,but a Pureblood.Only speculation.

Also,being that BBS is the furthest back so far,we do not know,of course,if heartless had existed before,or where they were if they did.That may be answered,may not be.

Also,if I am correct,the Gaurdian is essentially Xehanort's keyblade givin another shape,similar to how Terra's can become a cannon.However,someone who knows more about the game would be better to correct me if I am wrong.

 

Hmm good point, though neo-shadows are pure blooded heartless, the ones New Xehanort created would have to be Artificial (emblem) heartless.

 

Yes, that is what I was saying.

Maybe the darkness collected into the Shadow heartless to gather the hearts.

Since the only heartless shown in BBS are Neoshadows, there might be a different explanation. As I recall, when a Neoshadow dies, it doesn't die like the other heartless. It doesn't burst when it dies. So, going with what I was saying before, perhaps Neoshadows are pure darkness without the heart at their core.

I had always originally considered the Guardian to be the actual form of Xehanort's heartless. But now that it is in BBS, I don't think that anymore. I think it is just another Pureblood heartless, one stronger than an Invisible, but perhaps weaker than a Darkside. And I say that because all three of those heartless have something in common. They all have a heart–shaped hole in their chest.

That is why I think that Neoshadows aren't heartless, but are just grouped with them because there are no other (known) group of enemies that the Neoshadows belong to.