Religion

oh, really? wow i never knew that... thanks for the tip EbeneezerAL

okay, christan's don't ALL say that (so it isn't the common thing) nobody is saying that thier lifestyle is wrong they were born that way. they didn't have a chioce

show me this evidence. where did you find it? (ex: website)

okay, at the begining of the bible adam and eve are told not to touch the apples on that one tree and when the dis-obay god he gives them knowledge and free will. now the free will let's it so that we can choose god if we want to or we don't want to, it's our desicion. so if they know of god and they choose to not believe in him then they will go to hell. and god loves everyone weather they do or don't believe in him

every religon (i wouldn't say flaws) has it's mysteries that only, when we die, will we truly know what was the right religon

 

check agian

HAHAHAHAHAHA a friend... it's possible he got the information wrong when he tried to explian it to you

alright, god doesn't throw you into the lake of fire the devil does (if your going to insult god, do it right) and sure hell wasn't mentioned but the devil was. and it may seem like a scare tactic for people who aren't christans, but really... it's just fact (for christans anyway)

okay, everything has flaws EXCEPT for jesus, if you've read the bible (PROBABLY NOT) you would know he never had a sin in his life. and whatever you believe in is fine.

okay im gonna sum it up for ya

basically, in the bible, in the book of revalations: jesus predicted that we christans would be persicuted in the end just for believing in what we believe in (that is fact) i have seen it on TV and stuff like that... this one time this guy was teaching this class how the bible has effected american history and the people in that history (ex: martin luthor king jr. my hero) and this other guy talking about the subject siad "i don't agree with this, this is a way for the christans to spreed their message" like we are horrible people or something, when really the message we are trying to spread is a message of peace and of goodwill... also what if i were to say your religon is the stupidest religon in the world, you would be very pissed at me becuase i siad that about what you believe in. anyway my point is that what jesus predicted has come true and no matter what bad things you say about christanity, you are only proving my point to be even more true

 

Well let me put my two cents in this conversation. Reiligon that control your actions, why believe in it? I am not Christian, but a Buddhist. I don't care if you trash talk Buddha, what ever, that is what I believe in and nothing is change. We were raise a certain way and we live a certain way. Christians are different from Cathlics who are different from Jews that are different from Islamic but they all share the same God, which is God. People are raise to believe in a certain religion. I am Buddist because I know for a fact that Buddha was real and he did walk the earth. Jesus is real to, because there are books, paintings, scriptures about him. All I'm saying that people need a religion and if you take that religion away from them, they have nothing to fall back on. It is their security. I am not going to believe in a religion that tells you to do something in a certain way or be somebody that you are not meant to be. No. Religion is for comfort and some people take that to the extreme. I am a Buddist because of numerous reason and one major reason is that my family all believe in the same thing. Religion is a good thing but when it starts to controll everything you do, aren't you some robot? Can't you think for yourself? Do you really need to ask God to craved a path for you? I learn through trial and error. I only turn to my religion for something critical, like family members being sick, happiness, wellness, and security.

 

um... EbeneezerAL.... SkylerOcon is a guy........

and maybe i am, but whatever

 

I have a perfect example for you point, actually, Al (or uhh... EbeneezerAl? Everybody else seems to prefer to call you that.).

You see, in the student handbook for my school, there is - believe it or not - religious prejudice. The school handbook says that no satanic symbols are allowed. Yet its a daily thing to see kids walking around with crosses and other religious symbols.

And before anybody comes up to me and says, "SATANISM IS THE BELIEF IN THE DEVIL IF YOU SUPPORT IT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BURN OLOL!" Then, let me get this out of the way. The actual religion satanism, has nothing to do with the Christian devil. In my opinion religious satanism actually has better beliefs and morals than Christianity. Their bible says nothing against any group of people. The only suggestive thing in there bible is that it says to avenge yourself against those who have wronged you.

And honestly, that's not as bad as saying 'slavery is ok'.

Oh yeah, and uhh... I wouldn't be offended if you called Atheism the stupidest religion in the world. After all, it implies that in the bible, right?

EDIT:

Oh yeah, and regarding the thing about the Estrogen and Testrogen theory, I actually have talked about this with a couple of doctors and they said that it was one of the best theories they had heard for it in quite a while. So eh... take your pick, scientific evidence or professional opinion. I'm pretty sure both of those help my point.

 

I'm a Christian, and I sometimes wonder about my religion. The Big Bang does make sense, but then for their to be a big bang their had to be another generated cause. But then that would be nothing because they say that's how the world started. But if you think about it, their had to some sort of godly figure. In my opinion, religions make you think of the science and the god,godess, or what ever. Basicly, it's a huge flip-flop with no real answer.

 

Ok, so here comes another unbelievably (lol) long post by me.

Hmm, I never knew about that EbAl, but about the Genesis story and God having created the world in six days, from what I know, is not scientifically or historically accurate at all. The Genesis story was written around 750 B.C. and the Earth has been around (scientifically proven) for over millions of years; that being said, the only way the Genesis story could have subsisted for that long was by word of mouth, which we all know isn't very effective at preserving facts and ideas. Also, people back then were not too educated in science or history and most likely adjusted and tweaked the creation story to fit their own superstitions and false beliefs of the world.


And despite what people might think, the leaders of the Catholic Church all know this, except for the literalist ones of course. The creation story and nearly all the other parts of the bible were meant to be interpreted using contextualism, in other words, to be read for their religious meaning rather than what they actually say. Yes, I know at least one of you guys will accuse Christians of using this "contextualism" just to cover up our mistakes and the contradictions in the bible, but in reality, we are using it to fixour mistakes, as we have to accept that we were very wrong in the past. Unfortunately, not all Christians, especially Catholics, think like this, and people who are not Christian or Catholic are becoming more disapproving of our religion because of it.

So SkylerOcon, I'm curious about what you posted about satanism and how much better its morals are than Christianity (I'd like to see a few concrete examples). I think you're looking at Christians too critically by saying this, though, as no where in the bible does it say that we should reject other religions or, most importantly, other people. It's just Christians themselves and the Catholic church at times that do this. Besides, isn't satanism about worshipping creatures of destruction and chaos too like Leviathan? I can't see how that holds more morality than Christianity, but I might be wrong about this, so prove me wrong if you can.

 

Gah... I had like a college level essay on here, and then my computer went screwy and it didn't work.

Satanic bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check that for a basic overview and links to other websites, because I don't feel like retyping.

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHA you do know that wikipedia can be changed by ANY user who wants to change it... any information you get from there could be false becuase a user might have changed it

 

You do realize that wikipedia is moderated by Historians and College Professors who are paid for making sure that the information is kept correct?

Also, you do realize that the sources at the bottom are from legitimate websites?

Don't flame wikipedia. It's probably one of the best places to look up information on the Internet.

 

some of the things there are legit... but other's aren't.

 

All of it is.

If you find something incorrect on a page, either edit it or wait 10 minutes for somebody else to fix it.

 

SkylerOcon, I think it'd be best if you actually post specific material on why you think that Satanism has better values than Christianity, so you that you have something to directly defend your argument with and so that I can have something to argue against.

Plus, I'm sure you can understand how I don't feel like spending my own time to research on this topic myself, just how you don't feel like retyping some of the things in your essay.

 

To sum it up, Satanism only has one set in stone rule -- that's to avenge yourself when wronged. But, this is only to be used in very extreme cases like if your brother was murdered.

Other than that, there is no commitment besides the religious standard. You know, praying and the like? You get to follow your own path with satanism. You get to shape the religion the way you think right.

Also, the Satanic Bible has ZERO racist statements in it. That's right, nothing about slavery, gays, or whatever else. It's just about the basis of the religion and thats it.

I liked this post.

Religion arguments are fun to me.

 

y'know ebeenezer i have thought this exact same thing.... becuase i've been taught the other religons as well as i know my own and i must say that this very same thought, has come across my mind MORE than once.