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A new threat?

Discussion in 'General Kingdom Hearts' started by TheKnightofAwesome, Jun 13, 2011.

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  1. Jun 23, 2011 #101
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Correction
    The Heart (Heartless)
    The Body and Soul (Nobodies)
    Soul (Nothing)
    Heart and Soul (Nothing)
    Heart and Body (Dead)

    It's Kingdom Hearts for a reason not Kingdom Souls. ^_^
     
  2. Jun 23, 2011 #102
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Just because it's nothing now doesn't mean it wont be something later. I mean, sure Sora saw Nobodies in FM (actually I think he only met Xemnas, and he had his hood up) but for those of us who never played it and only watched the cutscenes after KH2 came out had no idea they were coming.
     
  3. Jun 23, 2011 #103
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    @Legacy-Maybe Nomura will find a way to use Kingdom Hearts to regain their souls? Who know?
     
  4. Jun 23, 2011 #104
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Doubt it. But maybe.

    True but I think the soul won't have a chance. Kingdom Hearts has to do with the heart not the soul.

    Heartless wanted more hearts
    Nobodies seeked their own hearts
    Unversed were emotions from the heart.

    Now enemies made from a will or memories possible.

    Yup that's right. Also it had extra reports which explains nobodies.

    Ehh you all could've read the new Ansem Reports or read the novel.

    But that was just an option.
     
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  5. Jun 23, 2011 #105
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Wait there was a novel? When did this happen?
     
  6. Jun 23, 2011 #106
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Yup mangas and novels since the original Kingdom Hearts.

    I think they have novels of all the games except Coded.
     
  7. Jun 23, 2011 #107
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Oh right the mangas. I remember seeing those now. I read though one of them and I could almost feel my IQ drop. It was nothing compared to the game.
     
  8. Jun 23, 2011 #108
    Become

    Become Resident Tashian Staff Member Moderator Content Writer

    If the soul is a legitimate and crucial construct in the makeup of a being, and important within the KH cosmology, I would like to think that it would be calculated into the mix in some format. Keybladelegacy does make a strong point that it might not be possible to directly incorporate the soul into seeking out KH, and might not totally fit the bill for Kingdom Hearts and the need for a villain to seek it. But then, perhaps Kingdom Hearts DOES posses the ability to breath a soul back into beings. I mean, it is made clear that a world's heart is very different from a person's heart, and so it's understandable the Kingdom Hearts is something different even from that. It might very well be able to influence more than just Hearts.
     
  9. Jun 23, 2011 #109
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Thank you! ^_^
    Possibly.

    Not really its very similar to peoples' heart. Unlike peoples' heart the worlds' heart are colossal and contain light and darkness.
    Well Kingdom Hearts has always been described as an aggregation of hearts and will grant the user power over all worlds therefore all people. The user can also create a new world. Ansem said all hearts are born from darkness and there they must return. I considered this darkness is Kingdom Hearts.
     
  10. Jun 23, 2011 #110
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    When is it said that Kingdom Hearts will grant someone control over the worlds? I don't remember that EVER being said in the story or in the Reports. That also goes for the ability to create new worlds. I mean I could be wrong and I wouldn't be too surprised if you can show me a legitimate source that says this, but still... If this is true then who's to say that Kingdom Hearts doesn't also have the power to restore souls?
     
  11. Jun 24, 2011 #111
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    agreed. Since when has KH been able to grant someone control over the worlds? I think just Ansem SoD thought that.
     
  12. Jun 24, 2011 #112
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    That's true. Xemnas never said he wanted KH for it's power to "control worlds" he only needed it so that he could get his heart back.
     
  13. Jun 24, 2011 #113
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Master Xehanort of course! And that is what Kingdom Hearts is all worlds' hearts!
    I will enlighten you my friend.

    It says arguably but that's still a maybe.

    Yeah I got your source!

    Regardless if it is true or not that has nothing to do with souls. Kingdom Hearts abilities to create the next world and give the user the power over all worlds and men, only has to do with the heart. Heart and soul are separate

    Correction!

    Xemnas didn't really want his heart! ^_^

    Plus Ansem and Xemnas are two halfs of the same coin. They both want the same thing. Power over all worlds.
    __________________
    Bam! Any questions?!
     
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  14. Jun 24, 2011 #114
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    ok this is why I need to pay attention to the reports and what people say. God dammit Legacy =/
     
  15. Jun 24, 2011 #115
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    Haha thanks I try.

    I realized something also! Xehanort stated in his reports whomever opens the doors to Kingdom Hearts will transcend beyond human. Both Ansem and Xemnas have opened Kingdom Heart's door. So Xehanort must be returning as a different existence. Different from any heartless, nobodies, unversed, and humans.

    I believe Xehanort will come back as a NEW THREAT and he won't be returning alone!
     
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  16. Jun 24, 2011 #116
    ansemkiller

    ansemkiller New Member

    yea (dosnt want to quote) but if you think about the idea about and enemy like that, what connection would they have to the whole kingdom hearts story line and dosnt that just make them a nobody? a nobody is just something born between the light and the darkness, they would have no soul to begin with because they have no purpose
     
  17. Jun 24, 2011 #117
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    wow Legacy. If that's the case, KH3 will be pretty intense! Can't wait to kick Xehanort's ass now!
     
  18. Jun 24, 2011 #118
    Angel

    Angel Lion Heart Staff Member Administrator

    I'm assuming your talking about the SoulSeekers.

    Pretty much none.
    Nobodies are body and soul.

    Or you can say not belonging to either side / born from nothingness.
    When did soul mean purpose?!

    Don't take my word on it. Congrats on the thousand btw.
     
  19. Jun 24, 2011 #119
    ADogX

    ADogX R.I.P. Captain Unohana

    I know but it makes sense. and thanks
     
  20. Jun 26, 2011 #120
    TheKnightofAwesome

    TheKnightofAwesome ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

    Sorry it took me so long but I just gotta say... Legacy you may have hit a breakthrough! to further add on this If both Ansem SoD and Xemnas opened KH and Sora killed them both with.......wait....Sora never finished off Ansem SoD with his Keyblade technically Ansem SoD died from the Light within KH.......... yea I'm sure...I just replayed the game recently for fun and he vanishes after he is hit with the Light from KH. So then what will happen to him? Yen Sid said that he would come back because Sora killed him with the Keyblade...but that's not necessarily the case. any thoughts?
     
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