Abortion

exactly my point. Would they go to heaven for having perfect balance, or would they be reincarnated?

 

Well, I suppose it depends on what you believe. If you believe like Catholics, then the baby can't get into Heaven without being baptized. But then since the baby never had a chance, then maybe God gives them a choice between Heaven and Hell.

 

My hardcore side says Hell (reincarnation), but I "want" the child to go to heaven, you know?....

 

Well, Christians don't believe in reincarnation.

 

I know, but I dont like Christian beliefs.....they're hypocritical (most anyway...). I'm more so in the belief that reincarnation and the Zoroastrian afterlife scheme (Zoroastrian afterlife belief is the original Heaven vs Hell theory. Many religions copied off of it, such as Christianity), is the true afterlife scheme o' thingz. I'm saying that in my belief I'm not sure where'd the babied go, probably get reincarnated, because they must've done somethin' really bad in a previous life to get aborted, but maybe abortion is where the hand of man is starting to control things, and the baby's "soul" was essentially good and the soul deserves Paradise, but because it never got to live that one last "good" life, God would show compassion and except it into Paradise.....
Idk, just thinking out loud here......dont want this to become a religious debate again....lol

 

Well, the Hindu believe in Reincarnation.

 

thats were I differ with Zoroastrianism because I believe reincarnation is the system of judgement for hell...the realm of matter. Srry for mods, we're getting way off topic. Lets talk about religion in religion thread, and abortion here......
....so why do liberalz want to not kill a murderer and would rather send him to prison, but would give a woman the choice to kill her child that hasn't committed any crime? I just dont get that. I would like a hardcore explanation.....justify your opinions....

 

So, in Zoroastrianism, you're reincarnation, is being put back in Heaven? Because I got confused.

According to the law, the woman is the "host" of the child. If she dies, then the child dies. But, she can choose to get rid of the chi9ld, and that's her own business if you ask me. But she can choose to see it the whole way through, correct?

 

Exactly. Why? Why? Why?

 

Because a Life Sentence is alot worse than execution.

 

But why allow abortions. Don't you have any sympathy for the baby? The baby is innocent. it has done nothing wrong so it deserves to live.

 

I have total sympathy. Abortion is a "Moral War" and it's going to be that way. I only believe that the carrier has the ultimate choice (I stress choice with absolute stress), in whether she should or shouldn't do it.

 

But the mother has no right to kill her child. That baby is not property, it's a human being and it has the right to live like everyother innocent human. Wether the mother likes it or not.

 

no, reincarnation applies to hell. Thats MY BELIEF, not a Zoroastrian belief. Zoroastrians believe in Heaven/hell, the original theory that such religions as Christianity have copied. I dont believe in that, that you just live one life, and your judged on teh fact that if you believe in Jesus or not determines your afterlife scheme. I believe that Karma dictates your reincarnation, bad karma = bad life. Good karma = good life. Enough good lives = Paradise....get it? Now save all of that for Religion thread....now back to abortion....

As for teh other thing, yeah, your right, And i hate that law....

no, because some get out on "good behavior". They should just die so we dont have to deal with em anymore.

...I understand. But abortion is still wrong. and deep dwn...u know that.

yes, but we shouldn't force that on teh woman. I hate abortion, but free will is important to. Life is essential, but whats the point of living without free will? The right to choice? Free will is awesome, but I side with "anti-abortion" because your killing and in that murder taking away a childs free will.

 

Exactly, thanks Roxy. We still have free-will.

 

yeah. Abortion is a touchy subject. I get both sides of teh argument, but I believe that sometimez a middle ground is teh real solution. Theres always a way to save everyone and make everyone happy.

 

Yes, but there's always the chance to do "the wrong thing". Face it, we're all human, we have the right to choose what we want and don't want to do. If the situation absolutely called for it, and I was a woman, then yes, I would get the operation. But, I'm not a woman so, I wouldn't know for sure.

 

The "wrong thing" would be murder. There is something called "LIFE", in which we dont make the rules, we obey them. There might not be a set of rulez, but in our minds we all know the "rulez", the "law", do to our inner voice of morality.

We dont get to choose everything, sometimes life happens, and we suffer because the world is evil.

 

yes, yes, thats what I was trying to say.

 

I just think abortion is just plain wrong. Because your killing a baby a baby is a human being. And if you are killing a baby your just conmiting murder.