Open Minded Vs. Closed Minded

Pro-gey, pro-choice, pro-abortion, abortion was invented by Nazi's. Hitler was gey.

None of you have done your reseach if u didnt understand that point. Its not an insult unless the individual takes it that way. Duh?

And Nazi's were communists. Communism is a radical form of socialism. But they were a communist party.

 

Lmao. The Nazi's were fascists, love.
And women had 'no' rights back then.

So that alleged invention of 'pro choice,' 'pro abortion' is very false.
Abortion was actually created by much older cultures in middle eastern and african countries centuries before that era.
Not to mention that gays were also EXECUTED along with the jews back during Hitler's regime.

That is in every history book between America and Israel.

 

Abortion was not invented by the Nazis. And, if you're going to call us on our research, then actually prove it with yours.

 

She's right.

Nazis are Fascists (sp?). They are basically as right winged as can be (Nationalists, capitalists, etc.). And Nazis killed Communists.

Communists are basically as left winged as can be.

 

I'm only going to comment on abortion. I'm for it. I believe that a girl/woman has the right to choose if she wants the child or not. In some cases, a rape victim for instance, the mother may want to abort the child due to the fact that it was created through an evil act.

In certain parts of the world, an abortion can mean your family disowning you and you being thrown out of the community. For a long time, Catholics in Ireland wouldn't allow an abortion even if the girl who wanted it, had been raped and had no chance of raising the child properly or being able to provide for it in the years to come.

Life is hard enough as it is without being made to feel bad about a decision you made. So if anyone has any problems with abortion, think about all of the possible circumstance before saying you're against it.​

 

Cute. Insulting someone and saying that they were "SICK" Nazi communists, and then attempting to cover up for it.

 

idk wat they teach in Europe cuz they are a can of worms, but this is all pretty basic history, maybe a little advanced for you, but i have a feeling your trying to put your spin on historical facts here Autopsy.
And Nazi's did sick experiments on pregnent women that lead to our modern day abortion. Science took research from the Nazi's about abortion and applied it to our everyday liberal that wants an abortion.

Already did, and if u'r so smart, why should i have to reteach you on things you "already know"?
Hm??

Fascists and Communists are the same thing (we could argue on it, but if u know your facts you know what i'm getting at).

Nationalists are basically patriots.
Capitalism is free trade, Capitalism is fair as long as it's justice and laws are held up. When corruption leaks into the economy like an infection, we see what is going on right now with the pigs running Wall Street.

Capitalism isn't fundamentally a bad economic ideal, it is actualy quite good. Its freedom in the form of economy. But when you get bad men on the thrones of the government, then things go down hill. (a.k.a George Bush and Bill Clinton).

 

History of abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I realize Wikipedia isnt exactly the best place to use information for research and stuff,but its a start for finding other sources.They do have citations after all and you can check them to see if its legit or not.

Also,what is left and right winged in this context?After all,capitalism was very liberal back when the US were still colonies of England,yet now could be considered conservitave.Depending on who you ask,of course.Not only that,but while Facists and Communists do have some things in common (I know I learned this stuff last year,cant remember the points),they still were enemies.Hell,there was mass propoganda AGAINST communism in Nazi Germany.

 

Your right dualblade.

History can be seen from different perspectives, thus we should all strive to look at things from an un-bias point of view.

 

What are you even talking about? I don't live in Europe. And regardless of the fact that I'm not, I have a feeling that Europe's own recall of its history in its history books is MUCH more accurate than what America chooses absorb from it and incorporate into its history books. And I never try to put a *spin* on history.

Everything I say is legitimate. To be honest, I think that you're the one in this thread who's starting to crumble beneath the weight of your own alleged 'facts' because you hardly have anything to say, other than leading your statements with insults. And yea, you're right that science took research from the Nazis. But abortion didn't 'begin' with them. The Nazis studied older cultural trends and incorporated that into what they did all of those years ago.

Then not all liberals want abortion, actually. To be honest, I'm not that crazy about women trying to abort babies when they're practically fully developed. But as long as they take precautions and try to at least do it wisely, then I'm fine with it.

You aren't really teaching anyone anything. You're spewing information that's only credible for the sake of appearing that you have your own argument.

Since when? Being a fascist is as far right wing as you can possibly go. Whereas being a 'communist' is as far *left* wing as you can possibly go. The Nazis were fascists. Most topdog American businesses are fascist. Wall Street is fascist.

Capitalism "isn't" fair. There's never fair play when someone's on top who doesn't belong there, and someone's on the bottom who deserves to be in the opposite position. Do you have ANY idea how many rich kids are waltzing into Ivy League schools simply because their parents paid off the schools to have their kids get into them? Then how the kids are only going in there *simply* to gain political and corporate connections to help them become fat-cat business owners and greedy and bullshit politicians who do nothing more than *ruin* this country?

Whereas there are actually SO many kids who grind their minds into studying their asses off, getting good grades, and being as academically efficient as possible, but aren't able to get into those Ivy Leagues because they don't have enough money, couldn't get enough scholarships, or couldn't on count that they fell into a racial statistic?

Capitalism will 'never' be fair.

Capitalism only isn't a bad economic deal to people because that's how this country's been run for a while and the people that fight to speak against it get silenced by branches of govt. through the media or actual violence, or other means. For example, during the Cold War, the reason that being a communist was such a *huge* deal was basically because the American govt. didn't want people getting the idea that communism could essentially be 'manageable' as long as the right people are in charge. Also because business owners didn't want their workers thinking that both levels in that industrial hierarchy could receive equal pay, and everyone could be on a common ground.

Capitalism is only 'good' if you're in the right place at the right time. If you fall within a certain class, raised within a certain family that exists on a certain percentage on what particular level of income, where you go to school, the connections you make, and so on...ultimately determines if you will survive within the capitalistic system. How, where, and the circumstances in which you move through out your life determines how hard it'll be for you to climb up the social ladder, if at all.

The essential reason *why* we're heading towards our 2nd Great Depression is because of Capitalism and nothing else. For about a century, we've been raised on the ideal that if we work hard, we can make our way in the world, and earn what we want. However, once you tilt that to a national scale, certain percentages become evident in what amount of people end up getting the most things, what people don't get as much, and so on. That establishes 'trends' socially and economically. Those trends being established post the original Great Depression allowed for our first consistent bundle of millionaires to spring into history, and it became easier for individuals to own and run their own businesses.

However, generations down the line as those individuals create families, that amount of wealth flourishes and then their children and family members get certain 'leverages' in society. Meaning that they get first dibs to get into prestigious schools, get better jobs, cars, connections to people that would have been nearly **impossible** to get on their own if it wasn't for the fact that they were lucky enough to be born into a rich and successful family. Now, on the other side of things, we enter the percentage of people who worked their asses off, and didn't end up creating the inventions or creating trends or gimmicks that earned them a mass amount of wealth. Those are the people who give birth to generations who have to work more than one or dead end jobs who work *endlessly* to reach the top of that social ladder to get to where the rich, fat cats are at.

Then 'Capitalism' plays a major role, because while it teaches us to work hard to earn what we want, it also goes into *excessively buying things that we DON'T need*. For example, a major reason that kicked off the reason why we're currently in a recession is because of the new ideal that was set in after the 1960's, when new Republicans; Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr, etc entered office. What they basically did was completely smash the withstanding economical equilibrium by fucking up the Supply and Demand scale. In order to make sure that America continued to flourish as a world power since it was in a passive Cold War, it fattened businesses by **over** - stimulating the Demand side of that scale, meaning that MORE people wanted things that weren't in supply. So, instead of following the baby boomer generation's trend of **saving** money, they actually started SPENDING more money than they needed to.

Then fast forward about 30-50 years, and America becomes even more capitalistic in nature. Add a new chain of wars on top of that, and a trigger happy retard for a president who totally "demolished" the surplus that Clinton left for the country once he left office, and America went into ruins because of the ongoing mentality that people HAD to always buy what they DESIRED, instead of what they NEEDED, combined with the TRILLIONS of dollars that Bush had spent on the war, and is continuously being rammed down the drain because Obama basically became president at the *wrong* point in our history, and was left with the mess that the Bush Administration left for him to clean up, and he's having trouble doing it because his ideologies are much better for an America that *isn't* in debt.


Know your country's economical and social history before you argue with me from now on.

 

Seeing this amount of writing on one page is making me feel quite sick...this is like a whole Tolkien book. Incredible.

 

A fire, i like it.

I agree with you on a lot of what you said Autopsy, our government is very corrupt, it is very evil.

But, again, you haven't done the research.

These guys who r fucking up the economy are FASCIST AND COMMUNIST!!!! THEY ARE PRO ABORTION AND PRO GEY!!!!!

They want this New World Order bull shit, and its evil and corrupt, but the truth is that they are winning, and they are taking away our rights as human beings slowly but surely.

 

Dude, you really have no idea, do you?

Most of the American government is almost entirely fascist because they get first dibs on all of the things that we struggle for; health care, decent jobs, decent living wages and conditions, etc.

And being pro-gay, and pro-communist isn't even in our government. A large portion of it is still actually pretty conservative, including with certain regions in this country that haven't undergone completely radical social movements to exterminate racial and sexual discrimination.

Your arguments, or a portion of them are also quite socialist as well.
Being a communist is the edge of being left wing. That means that everyone stays at the same social and economic level. Being a *fascist* means that the nation becomes a 3rd world country, and the people on top stay on top, and the people on the bottom always remain there.

Both systems are essentially stagnant.
The communist system is about keeping everyone equal.
The fascist system is about keeping everyone divided.

You're confusing things.

 

On the communist issue,its a good idea on paper,and if somehow a person or group of people could run it without letting the power running to their heads it would make for a great government.Problem is,even if one or two genrations of government can do that,it will evetually fall.Just like every other government.Even the US system will most likely fall,sooner or later.i would hope it would not happen and that it will endure,but all things fall eventually.

And yes,saying the US goevernment is pro-gay is kinda strange since gay people are not allowed to marry in most states yet.

(No,facts I do not have.None that I can cite anyway.If I do I'll put em.)

 

And it's "gay," not "gey."

And there's no such thing as being "Pro-Gay."
It's called..'Supporting Homosexuality.'

 

The fuk is Pro-gay? Please define that term I've only heard of gay, and wtf "gey"? Lets be more realistic here.

 

Communism = no power of the people.
Fascism = Pigs run the world.

I believe in freedom, power to the people, we are all born equal, but no one should cater to someone who doesnt work hard.

 

In a communist society, there's no *point* for radicalism because everyone's right's would be recognized, and there'd be no fighting or any social disturbances. So that 'no power' thing technically doesn't apply because there'd be no one dominating since social classes would be destroyed.

All the people would have to do would be to raise the issue with the government, and it'd be changed to fit the needs of the population. To be honest, it'd make things a lot less complicated.

Communism doesn't fit in with that last statement either.

 

Communism is were the government runs everything. When was the last time a Communist country suceeded?? Hm??

Do your fuckin research, look at the world and not in books.

 

True,in communism,true communism,EVERYONE is EQUAL.Equal rights,equal work,equal pay.You cant have something better then someone else,but also cant have something worse.Atleast if the system worked.

I believe it could work for a generation or two,but not for too long.But I could be wrong.Those in charge of the government would have to be able to not be corrupted by the power they wield in order for it to work.