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Racism

Discussion in 'Mature Discussion' started by alchemistz, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. Well whatever makes people feel better about themselves then.
     
  2. Figure.09

    Figure.09 New Member

    The myth of race is a pervasive one. When reminded of it, often times people will exploit and devastate each other.

    Although Hitler is a topic on Racism, the very concept of racism itself is unfounded, and was actually assumed to be real for socially relative purposes, imo. In fact there is no genetic differences between an African fellow and an American fellow, or an Asian fellow, even. The only difference is the pigmentation. And the only differences in immunities and other environmentally related characteristics are from the environment of that area. Some physical differences are also noted here, such as eye curves, hair color, eye color, etc.

    But if we pay no attention to things like eye color and hair color, then why is skin all of a sudden a huge deal? Well I shouldn't say all of a sudden... it has been around for a long time.

    To me "race" is simply an identifier to ethnicity. However inaccurate this may be, it does cover some basic grounds. I can safely assume the brown pigmentation can usually be that of Hispanic or the like. Although it does depend on their habits, physical structure, etc.

    Now the real big thing here is why we marginalize one another on the basis of race. I'm not sure if any of you know about the "one drop rule"? Essentially some time ago, if you even had 1% of your genetic make-up as non-white (such as African, let's say), you are therefore not white. This was a simple social stigma placed on those who had one white parent and one black parent, because if I can recall correctly, it was put to work to completely eliminate the black "gene-pool" from the population. However, this never worked, because no amount of science can find "race" in genetics. It's a series of genetic structures in the individual, coupled with ethnic characteristics. I hope that makes sense.

    Would I go as far as to say "race doesn't exist"? Probably not, because race is generally identified with ethnicity as well--even though the two are very, very different.
     
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  3. Zerieth

    Zerieth Head Game Reviewer

    You sort of summed up my thoughts. Racism is wrong, and it shouldn't be used anymore in our country.
     
  4. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    Too bad other ppl have too much pride in the color of there skin. That's why where called a race people, where supposed to be different, not all look alike. so then the ? is why do other races like whites, think there better cuz of skin or other traits that so do not have. (not all whites and black thing just example)
     
  5. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    1. USE SPELL CHECK DAMN YOU.
    2. It's called a race because it's called a race. A "Racing" Analogy doesn't do crap here, because you can have a race where all the competitors are the same.
    3. Same reason people think one religion is better than the other: Because they were brought up believing that. (Probably)
     
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  6. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    That is so not true. You can live how you want, slave owners had kids and sometimes even when they taught them to hate blacks, sometimes, very few times the kids did not listen and tried to help the blacks. So you cant blame it on how we are raised.
     
  7. Kitty

    Kitty I Survived The BG Massacre Staff Member Administrator

    Do you honestly think that the way we are raised has no impact on the way we view life? Yes, people can choose to ignore what they've been taught, but how likely are people to turn their backs on a litany they've heard their entire lives? If a person is constantly told, and shown, that white people are superior, that is most likely what they will believe. You even say in your post that "very few times" the children of slaveowners helped make things better for slaves. Clearly not a majority.
     
  8. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    I was just pointing out that it can be beaten. I now it was slim and that it impacts are life. Really if ppl just looked at things in a broad way, then they would see them as humans and ppl too. That race is just a name, and that The bible says not to have slaves or kill and treat others and love others as your family and if ppl where into it like they say, then why would racism be a big thing?
     
  9. Moogle

    Moogle Well-Known Member

    Actually, the Bible says you can have slaves (And gives explicit instructions on how to treat them). I'll post the passages if wanted, but this is not the religion thread.
     
  10. Ryokosha

    Ryokosha New Member

    Slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves. It's horrible and It gets me very angry that even today there are still slavery going on about.
     
  11. Figure.09

    Figure.09 New Member

    But the thing is, you can. You just need to look at social and psychology information by B.F. Skinner, Robert Redfield and other various sociologists/psychologists to really grasp a global perspective on the way humans can think about race. The biological spectrum (the idea you are implying is more true than nurture) is really backed by little evidence. Granted there is some, though, to be fair.

    Discrimination towards someone due to skin color is very much something that is taught to you. You can try and argue there is genetics that give someone an inherent dislike or hate towards someone because of their skin... but then you automatically throw up in the air more questions, such as, are emotions such as hate and feelings of dislike inherent in a persons DNA? Would that also mean they have a higher propensity by inherency to respect and appreciate certain colored people and therefore their emotions of happiness and joy with them? When you see that the majority of individuals raised were racist to the slaves at the time, it is abundantly clear it is based on cognitive behavioral projection.

    That's just my opinion though.

    How are you relating that to race? o_O
     
  12. Colonel Caboose

    Colonel Caboose The Man, the Myth, the Legend

    Now of course I'm not racist (if people didn't know that.) I am just pointing out the slavery thing. We we did in slave them, and yes they weren't the only ones. Though if they look at their own country they have more In America then they would ever have in their own country, because we inslaved them and had to let them free. So they shouldn't ever bring it up they were inslaved.
     
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  13. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Just came to let you know archangel Your so dead lol.You think that just because we live in America and the land of " freedom"you have free right to say whatever you want? well let me bring you down a few pegs. We have rang to say whatever is on our minds. at the account of others of course. But don't worry about it lol. Let me catch wind of you saying something like this again. You think everyone else is mean you haven't seen the worst one on the crew yet.
     
  14. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel Banned

    Lol wow you sure showed me prodigy im soooooo sorry.

    Dont worry, I pretty sure I can handle it.
     
  15. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Nah i doubt it. Your intelligence level is to low to comprehend where I'm coming from right now. You pissed off the wrong person today bub. Do you even know how a debate thread works. do you even know what " open discussion" means. You know what don't even answer that, i can tell for myself.
     
  16. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel Banned

    Lol taking a shot at my IQ? Really? lol I mean Really?

    Arent you supposed to be older and more mature?
     
  17. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Before i break my own rules and cause spam in this thread. I'll say this.

    Its only fitting that i take a shot at your IQ after all. you targeted a entire race as well as there " butchery of the English language" Can't take them blows G T F O of my oven boy.

    Don't think for a second i don't know one aspect of things that go around here. every mod here reports to me directly upon every infraction given on each warning handed out. So beyond just me. You don't talk to staff anyway you choose bub. So I'll leave you with this warning. If i ever see it again. trust me :) You WONT like what i do to you. Guess ban if you want but i have bigger things in mind.

    PS. I do apologize to all my wonderful members on KHP that you had to see me this way. i don't take kindly to racist, especially those that can't back up there arguments with facts.

    Sometimes Public embarrassment is needed.
     
  18. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel Banned

    Sooo your threatening me? on a Kingdom hearts forums? This is the part where im intimidated right?
     
  19. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Any further questions Feel free to Pm :)
     
  20. Nova

    Nova A Ghost Staff Member Administrator

    Nope. This is the part where I delete any posts you make here or anywhere else that causes offence to Mods, or people of any race. That includes any rebuttle you make against me for this post because after this, any post off topic about racisum will not be excused it will be spam.

    By the way, only asses say the word Niger to mean offence lately. Dont accuse an entire race of something that you are accomplishing so well all by yourself right now. Thats all I have to say about that.

    ~Hope
     

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