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Unbirths + Xehanorts intentions

Discussion in 'Archive' started by cozzy_0205, Jun 1, 2009.

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  1. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Well im pretty sure there is no doubt its the soul, it was mentioned in the ansem report and is the only one we haven't seen
     
  2. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    what if is't a premature heartless and nobody, like in the middle of being consumed by darkness, and having a nobody.
     
  3. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Nomura said it isn't a heartless nor a nobody, so no.
     
  4. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    no, not that is't a heartless and nobody but the thing in between it. mixed with heartless and nobody
     
  5. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Um if you saying its a heartless and a nobody put together, or mixed, thats stupid and impossible,

    A heartless mixed with a nobody= a somebody
     
  6. LivingDeath

    LivingDeath Dormina'd

    Didn't i told you that before? Seems you forget it quickly.
     
  7. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    *shurgs* probably, but he doesn't wanna listen to us :/
     
  8. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    man, what i'm trying to say is a somebody but was going to turn into a heartless and nobody and something went wrong.
     
  9. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    um first makes no sense,
    second, Heartless and Nobodies DID NOT exist at this time
     
  10. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    well there like heartless though, they resemble them too.
     
  11. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Here's something that popped in my mind.

    Heartless= Heart and darkness
    Nobody= Body, soul, and darkness
    (I remember seeing somewhere that nobodies retained their soul)

    So based off that logic, Unbirth either= Soul and darkness or something concerning the loss of one's soul.
     
  12. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    or it could be mind and darkness, like you lost you mind to the darkness and it took over your body. not nobody stuff, but your mind is trapped in darkness. then your mind creates an unbrith, depending on how strong your mind is, that's how strong the unbriths will be. i mean it was born from your mind, but by force.
     
  13. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Don't throw darkness in there, well you can but it complicates things even more.

    Heartless=Heart and Body, that has been consumed by darkness

    Nobody=Body and Soul, but nobodies are neither light, or darkness, they belong to nothingness i guess

    Unbirth= Soul and Heart, because we haven't seen this...maybe with darkness, maybe without, maybe they too belong to nothingness....

    this is basically what ive been saying for a while actually, except throwing in darkness complicates everything, because nobodies might not have darknes.

    or not..why would it be mind? because if you think of it everything has a mind

    Nobodies have a mind,
    unbirths have a mind(i know this because they go off instinct, you can't be mindless, :p)
    and heartless have minds

    so im doubthing the mind theories.
     
  14. Desert Warrior

    Desert Warrior Well-Known Member

    Heartless aren't heart and body. Because nobodies are created from the bodies that lost their hearts. That is why for my post, I said heart and darkness. That is pretty much what a heartless is. Nobodies are pretty much shells of darkness with souls.
     
  15. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    sorry sorry :D, i made a mistake there i guess i wasn't paying attention

    Heartless=A Heart and A Soul consumed by darkness

    Nobodies= A soul and body, but its neithr dark nor light

    Unbirth= ???,

    my main point is you cant say

    heartless=heart and darkness, because every heart has darkness,besides the PoH's making everyone a heartless, thats a false statement

    now if you would have said a heart consumed by darkness it would have been different.
    its way to complicated to add darkness in things like you were trying,
    because in the end, the result will come up to false statments.
     
  16. soldediamantes

    soldediamantes New Member

    In a cutscene in Kingdom Hearts, when Sora first enters Traverse Town's Second District, it shows a man being attacked by a Heartless. His heart flies off to Kingdom Hearts and he turns into a Soldier Heartless (if I'm correct). Aren't Heartless just the consumed hearts of a person? I thought that Nobodies were the bodies of the person and their soul. I know for a fact that when Unbirths were around, Heartless and Nobodies didn't exist, which is ten years prior to the events of Kingdom Hearts. Nomura himself says that the Unbirths are like a "base" for the Heartless and Nobodies. So they could be anything, really.
     
  17. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    i read that somewhere.
     
  18. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    No they aren't just consumed hearts :p, actually im pretty sure they have bodies, because actually nobodies aren't the bodies, they are left overs of someone after somone turns into a heartless
     
  19. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    what if unbriths are like that!
     
  20. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    they aren't or they would still be around. in soras time.for the last time think before you post
     
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