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Ven.....

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep' started by NeRo, Nov 29, 2007.

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  1. tmp1114

    tmp1114 New Member

    And maybe ven is Sora family member.
     
  2. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    i still refuse to belive that Ven has any allocations with Sora. i just dont see it. i think Terra is more twoards sora than ven
     
  3. sma2112

    sma2112 New Member

    dude roxas is a part of sora so that means that sora and ven have to be related
     
  4. matty0828

    matty0828 New Member

    It's defintely possible that theres a connection between the two... although there might be another reason for it, but I'm probably wrong.

    I think Roxas' Nobody entered Ven's body... or something like that anyway... this is probably wrong, but I've always wondered why Organization 13 had human-looking forms while most other Nobodies didn't. I'm just putting it out there.

    If not, then it's possible that Sora is related to him in some way - it would have to be a pretty close relative though I guess. Xemnas tells Roxas that Sora looks like him, so isn't it possible that a relative of Sora's might also resemble Roxas?

    Or, could Sora have become a Heartless before KH? That's probably a bit of a stretch, but its possible. The DS KH (I always get confused with all the numbers so I'll leave it at that for now!) should clear that all up though.
     
  5. Venhot2

    Venhot2 New Member

    My thoughts are that Sora/Roxas are related to Ven in a sort of way becuase
    1) look at the kh2 fm you see he is the first one to attack( sora would do that)
    2) the way he acts he is basicly using his keyblade instead of magic
    3) he cares for Aqua as you can see by the way he was looking at her, making that like Kairi in a sort of way
    my conclusion is that I don`t know I can`t really say that his Dad, because come on my dude he`s like in his teens, I kinda of Say that Terra is Sora`s dad don`t really know as for Ven he could be a like an experiment or something because I remember going into a kh3 site and Xernouat said somethign about being not whole or not being real or an experiment of some sort. so yeah it`s just what i thought of all today eh tonight
     
  6. shadow17

    shadow17 New Member

    hey guys
    how are you
    i was thinking the whole night why does ven looks like roxas and came up with this
    ven is actually roxas he wasnot a nobody at that time i think master Xenoheart stole his memories or his heart ( or maybe he fell from a mountain like goku fell and forgot he was a sayian lol )and he was fighting till the end and lost his heart and was taken to the world that never was and became a nobody and xenmas took him and named him as roxas and became part of the organization . no wonder terra was protecting ven all the time he knew this would happen and i think master xenoheart was about to control terras heart but ven came to the rescue and lost his heart and terra was affected by xenohearts heartless.
    now i think no 14 might be aqua (mysterious girl )who was being sent by terra to be on ven's side and protect him something like that while terra went to look for sora to prepare him for the next battle . i think story is like this

    first birth by sleep (psp) , then nds 358/2 days, then kingdomhearts 1 (ps2) then then kh chain of memories (gba ) kh 2 (ps2) then comes kh 2 final mix and the end kh 3 .
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2008
  7. tmp1114

    tmp1114 New Member

    And maybe i am right and some people are wrong.
     
  8. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Um...no. That doesnt mean that in this game that they have anything to do with each other. But your entitled to your opinion
     
  9. Luke

    Luke Member

    My friend kris posted this on my site, i think its good.




    Alright, i'll just go ahead and say this at the beginning.
    I JUST thought this up, someone has probably thought it up before me or atleast something similar. I have hardly no evidence (how can one have a lot seeing as how this is about an unreleased game?) And this may even seem crackpot, but i think no matter what, i find my theory a hell of a lot better than the 'Ven is the older brother of Sora' theories.
    So yes, i will be talking about Ven and the (dreaded) Roxas. and aswell as Sora, Xehanort, Xemnas and Naminé, consider that a bonus!

    Alright, so i shall go ahead and say this, we only know of 3 Nobodies that we have seen their original selves (Xehanort, Naminé and Roxas) and this is what i'm basing my theory on.

    First off, read this lovely passage from an Ansem Report.

    Notice the bold will you. Now lets look at some examples! I do prefer pictures over talk.

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    Alright, the picture of Xehanort's colour was off a tad so i added a (crappy) picture above.
    Anyways, lets point out the similarities shall we?
    -Same hair colour.
    -Same Hair style (though Xemnas' is longer and such (age can do that to yeah! :p)
    -Same eye colour
    -Same skin tone.
    -Same eyebrows (lol)

    By DiZ's definition i would say that there are only faint visible changes between Xehanort and his Nobody, wouldn't you?
    Now lets take a look at Sora and Roxas.

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    Wow, not as many similarities between these two eh?
    -They don't have the same hair colour (Sora has brown, Roxas 'blonde')
    -They don't have the same hair style (Sora's downward spiky messball, Roxas swishy upwards/defying gravity thing)
    -They don't have the same eyebrows (Roxas' are slightly thicker...)
    -They don't have similar noses (Sora's is a bit more roundish while Roxas' is more thinned)
    -They do however have the same eyes.

    Alright, now here is where my theory really kicks in (I apologize as my theory is kind of all over the place, i might edit later to make it more clear.)

    We know from Xehanort/Xemnas that the Nobodies are SUPPOSED to retain a lot of the same characteristics, but Sora and Roxas DO NOT. So here it is, my semi-crackpot theory.
    A lot of people are talking about the Terra/MX combining thing and i think a similar thing happens to Sora, hear me out.
    I think, some how (no idea really seeing as how we don't have the answers) Ven's SOUL (yes his soul) gets fused with Sora at one point (most likely at the end of BbS) and this would explain why Roxas looks so much like Ven and not Sora. We know that when the Body and Soul cast off it forms a Nobody.
    So I'm thinking that Sora had Ven's soul inside of him and that is what Roxas was created from, which is why Roxas looks practically identical to Ven.
    Okay this probably doesn't flow right because im not organized, but also consider this:
    We know that Nami is made from Sora's B+S so if Ven's soul was also in there that might explain why Naminé also shares SOME of Ven's characteristics. (Nami, Roxas and Ven all have similar noses, blue eyes and blonde hair.)

    So, in short, Sora has Ven's soul inside of him. Roxas is made from this soul and Sora's body. Nami is made from this soul and Sora's body. Sora likes to have many people inside of him XD!

    (P.S. I'm REALLY sorry if this was hard to follow, i don't normally write theories so this was all over the place, if you have any suggestions i'd be glad to fix it up. Also you can bash this all you want but i probably wont care very much because making theories is all about risks right?)
     
  10. c-strifen

    c-strifen New Member

    I think Roxas and Ven could be the same guy. Axel did think he had a heart compared to the other nobodies.(the sunset scene in Final Mix+,after Sora Roxas fight)
     
  11. Zenrot

    Zenrot New Member

    I think luke's theory makes alot of sense. It's obvious that ven's spirit somehow infected sora.
     
  12. Ilovegaara9

    Ilovegaara9 New Member

    well it's a theory that since Roxas had no body to form in because Sora turned back to normal that he took over the Frozen Ven's body and that's why he looks so much like him
     
  13. Sora/Roxas

    Sora/Roxas New Member

    how did ven's soul get in sora's because the only time ven sees sora is when he is a lil boy
     
  14. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    When does ven see sora...and who told you that?
     
  15. shadow17

    shadow17 New Member

    lol everyone has different ideas and lets see who wins its time to duel lol
     
  16. Zenrot

    Zenrot New Member

    Haha, ok this is my friends theory and its kind of crazy, but Ven's clothes look like a mix of sora and roxas right? Well he thinks that Ven gets his heart taken and his heartless is Sora, while his nobody is Roxas. It would explain why Roxas looks exactly like Ven, but other than that, idk.
     
  17. NeRo

    NeRo Your Supreme Lord And Savior Staff Member Administrator

    Ok i understand that Ven is somehow allocated with sora due the fact that him and roxas are just about identical. however ven used to be a real person and Roxas was a nobody unless Ven had something to do with Sora's heart its just a werid mystery that il just have to wait to see it solved
     
  18. Sora holds the key

    Sora holds the key New Member

    I think that Ven is someone important to sora like an old memory of someone from the island that sora has long forgotten and that when sora became a heartless his nobody assumed the form of that memory "Ven" and that is why he looks exactly like him.
     
  19. rockerblade13

    rockerblade13 New Member

    Mayve Ven is connected to Roxas,who was connected to Sora.Think:Terra said when he watched Sora and Riku play on the Island,"Don't depend on me my friend...just erase me"."My Friend"...This call comes back to Ven..making Roxas.Then,Roxas had joined the Organization..also,the 14th Member,who COULD be Aqua..had recently joined as did when Roxas had came.I'm leading to a point where Terra and Aqua had made Roxas...then,when Terra was watching Sora play on the islands with Riku,he had made Roxas into his nobody.Thats how Roxas had joined the Organization,just as I said,Aqua had been there at the same time as him.And dissappered,at the same time as Roxas.So all words lead:Ven-Roxas-Sora.All keyblade welders.In my thought,Terra,Aqua,and Ven must of had a very strong bond.Which is why,Xemnas(who looks like Terra)called Aqua a friend in the Room Of Sleep.Thats just my theory.And this is the reason i'm getting BBS,it explains everything.
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  20. rockerblade13

    rockerblade13 New Member

    No,Ven didn't see Sora play on the Islands,Terra did.He said:"Don't Depend On Me,My Friend...Just Erase Me".
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