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It's not just oil companies, from what I understand. Any company can sue if they feel a government's regulations cause a loss of profits, and the court is some international panel of corporate stooges, so who do you think they'll favor? Hell, I think a company could sue the government because minimum wage laws cut into their profits. I really don't think we need that.

Copyright in the US is already fucked, with copyright holders apparently not having any idea what "fair use" means (hence why so many Youtubers' videos are being taken down), and the system overwhelmingly favoring large corporate copyright holders over everyday citizens (using the material legally) when there are disputes. The TPP will make this worse, IMO.

Of course, it's hard to tell what the damage will be, when almost all of it is still being kept secret from the public. I feel like it will be bad for jobs, because I feel like NAFTA was bad for jobs, particularly in areas like Ohio and Michigan. I think after that was signed, a lot of companies picked up and moved operations to Mexico, and I can see it happening with the TPP, too. I think it takes protections away from workers, gives a big screw you to fair use, and is probably going to come and bite us on the ass down the road. But who knows, maybe I'm totally wrong about it. I suppose we'll see.

Yeah, I'm not sure either. There's a push going on to get Johnson into the debates. Maybe he'll make it and a moderator can ask him about this. I think we need him there anyway. Debates between Trump and Hillary (all three of them ) are going to be awful.

 

September 26, according to Google. The other two are October 9 and October 19, with the VP debate on October 4. I'm not sure that I believe that they'll all actually happen, though. I've heard that both camps have been trying to wiggle out of them. Probably because they don't want the people to see that they're both shitbags.

 

Well, for one, I don't think Hillary is very healthy. There are pictures of her being helped up some steps, looking kind of frail, and just in general, in her latest appearances, she doesn't look well to me. So I think she's trying to avoid that stress. Also, at least if the primary is anything to go by, her numbers tended to drop after debates- it seems the more people see her, the less they like her. Plus, if she gets up in front of a camera, and the moderators actually do their damn jobs instead of coddling her, she might have to answer some tough questions she'd like to avoid, such as how she feels she can be president when the FBI called her extremely careless with national security, or about the Clinton Foundation taking donations from foreign governments and those governments getting weapon deals from her state department, etc. There's a reason she ducked the scheduled debate with Bernie before California's primary, and why she hasn't held press conferences much at all lately.

As for Trump, well, it's hard to imagine what he could say that would be worse than what he already has. I don't think either of them would come out of a debate smelling like roses, but I actually think it could hurt Hillary worse. Unless of course, Trump takes a fall because he's a plant.

 

I'm too lazy to confirm, but I think Hillary is 69 and Trump is 68. Or possibly it's reversed, with Trump a year older. Regardless, I feel like he looks a lot healthier than she does. Hell, Bernie at 74 looks healthier and in better shape than she does. I don't know, to me Hillary just seems sick. There are videos on Youtube of her apparently having a seizure on camera (although she tries to pass it off as some absurd overreaction to a reporter's question, so who knows what it really was). I watch it every now and then because I'm a horrible person and it makes me laugh.

I feel like once I see how he performs at the debates, I'll finally be able to decide if he's a plant or not. It shouldn't be that hard for him to look better than Hillary if he actually wants to. So I'm somewhat looking forward to the first debate. Except the MSM has been in the bag for Hillary all election so far, so I feel like they'll probably go easy on her and not ask any actually important questions, and they'll probably go out of their way to make Trump look bad even if he tries to be a normal human. *shrugs*

 

I don't feel bad for her in the slightest. She's a criminal, or, if not exactly breaking the law, still corrupt as fuck and probably a horrible human being. Any decent person who cared about the country would step aside if they're as unhealthy as she looks, or can't handle the stress. Not to mention the fact that who knows what all countries hacked her private damn server and are holding onto her emails waiting for her to get into office so they can blackmail her. Which will probably be the only way people can get favors from her if the Clinton Foundation scam shuts down or quits taking donations from corporations and foreign govt.s as I heard reported.

Ugh. It's disgraceful that she could be our first woman president. Her supporters are stupid as hell.

If I end up getting polled, I'll say I'm voting for him to try and get that percentage up. But I kind of doubt I'll get polled- I doubt anyone gives a shit about KY. Only states that matter are those few swing states, unfortunately. But you're right, we just have to wait and see. Hopefully the train wreck will at least be entertaining.

 

Maybe that's why? I mean, he's not polling well enough to really have a chance of winning yet, but he's a lot closer to the debate stage, and I feel like this election might be surprising in the number of people going third party. I think Stein is seen as a joke with no chance, and those other two choices are gags.

I think things are starting to unravel. You have Wikileaks releasing the DNC emails, that certainly make the primary look shady even if they don't directly implicate her, and they're promising to release Clinton campaign data and other shit that probably will make her look even worse (or what would be the point of releasing it?). She got off without legal repercussions with the email thing, but it hasn't helped her image. And I read somewhere that the IRS and the FBI were both looking into the Clinton Foundation. This election was supposed to be a cake walk for her, and she (or people on her behalf) had to cheat her way through the primary just to beat a senator from a tiny state who hardly anyone had ever heard of before. Her poll numbers are not terrific, especially when you look at the fact that she's running against Trump, another polarizing candidate that people hate, and she still ranks low in trustworthiness and likability among potential voters (even in her own party). The queen's probably losing her shit because her coronation isn't going as smoothly as she planned. And the stress effects her health, which makes voters question whether she's healthy enough for the job, which makes her stress more, etc, etc. Couldn't happen to a more worthy candidate.

 

Clinton to FBI: Didn't know parenthetical 'C' stood for classified
I am sorry, but someone this damned stupid, that brain damaged, or that much of a fucking liar has no business even running for president. And the FBI is full of cowards for letting her get away with it. American people, I know a lot of you really suck, but please have some integrity and vote for someone who is not a piece of crap, thanks.

Any bets on what Trump will pull this weekend to take the heat off of Hillary for this? 'Cause I'm guessing there will be something.

No way Jill gets into the debates. The mainstream media is too busy kissing Hillary's ass, and if Jill gains popularity, she'll be pulling votes from Hillary, not Trump. See, you have to actually be included in the polls be to be able to get 15% of the votes, so they just conveniently forget to include her or Johnson. However, I can almost see Johnson managing to get into the debates- for one, he's polling higher (when they include him), and two, I think they figure he'll pull votes from Trump, so pushing him might help Hillary. But then again, with Jill Stein and Gary Johnson in the debates, there might actually be, I dunno, rational discussion about policy, and we can't have that. What America really needs is more Trump talking about dick size and Hillary's legalese gibberish to avoid actually giving an answer.

 

A lot of states were rigged in Hillary's favor. This is partly the reason why I want her to lose more than I dislike Trump- I don't think we should reward cheating democracy. There are multiple lawsuits, but I doubt anything will end up coming of them, unfortunately.

As far as Jill's polling, the numbers I've seen on the national polls were closer to 5% than 12%. I just can't see her being allowed to debate. The establishment obviously doesn't give a crap about what the people want, or they wouldn't be shoving an embarrassingly incompetent Hillary down our throats.

 

Americans are too lazy and politically ignorant to revolt. How many who are legally able even manage to vote? People will rant on the internet for a little after the election, and again whenever Congress/the President have major fuck ups, but then go back to ignoring politics like always.

If you think Hillary will keep her word on anything besides what she's secretly promised to her donors, the joke's on you. If she wins, I don't expect her to make it even a full term before the House tries to impeach her.

 

No, sadly it's not just a meme. There's a whole bunch of shit in the FBI reports recently released- this post on reddit lists some of the insanity (such as the fact that Hillary lost both a laptop and a thumb drive containing confidential emails).

It's also a lie. In this video of Wikileaks' founder Julian Assange, at around the 4 minute mark, he actually shows an example of Hillary using the (C) and signing the document. So this "I didn't know that meant confidential; I thought it was organizing paragraphs" spiel isn't even incompetence, it's just her inability to be truthful popping up yet again.



And yes, Hillary supporters are too enamored with their queen to care about her lies and about how unqualified she is

But since you mentioned memes, this one tickled me earlier today, I suppose because I'm around preschool children all day:

This is what we have to look forward to.

I suppose depending on the methodology, some of the polls may show her higher than in the ones I've seen. I personally think she is being purposely underrepresented (for example, in some of the polls, including, I think, the most recent CNN poll, if you read through it, you'll notice that they don't bother to poll 18-34 year olds, or weigh their results very little. Given this was Bernie's prime demographic, I think this group would skew more towards Jill). But I also think so many people just see the two party race that they may not even realize anyone else is running. v_v

Also, for anyone interested, Gary Johnson and Bill Weld had an AMA the other day. Link.