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What Unbirth Are

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Destiny, Apr 3, 2009.

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  1. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    becasues keyblades are good now. they dont go to peploe with bad hearts.
     
  2. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    O.O *Hits self in the head a million times*
    it surprises me how people play the game, and know absoletly nothing about this game, -_________- not to be mean

    Okay, the KEYBLADE really doesn't have any characteristics, you can't call it a person, or say ITS GOOD or BAD g, gahgakl;d <<sorry

    Now i guess im going to have to explain the basics,

    The keyblade doesn't choose who has a GOOD or BAD heart at freakin all, it usually chooses someone with a strong heart.

    Example: When Sora Had They Keyblade, and Riku Took It Away From Him At Hollow Bastion, For A Second Riku, Kind Of Depress Sora, Or Made Sora Doubt Himself, Making Riku's Heart Stronger Long Enough For Him To Steal The Keyblade Away. Leaving Sora With A Wooden Sword.

    Now When Sora, Took They Keyblade Back, Riku Stopped Believing In His Heart Basically, And Sora's Heart Had Grown Stronger Because After Continuing His Quest After He Lost Everything(His Weapon, His Friends, And His Confidence). Therefore, Sora's heart was stronger than Riku's and it remained that way.

    In Kh2 when riku got his keyblade, Way To Dawn, he had finally relized what he was, who he was, and he no longer doubted himself, he know longer was ashamed about who he was or what he did. making his heart strong, and im guessing thats how his keyblade was formed
     
  3. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    XD I wonder if the two of you are really related. Anyways, would unbirths be those who wasn't able to go on in the next life too or would that be crossed out?
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2009
  4. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    If we were related, he would know more than this about kingdom hearts >.>

    Those who aren't able to go on to the next life, :D i actually like that,
    it could be a possiblity
    anything is because as of right now, we have no clue what these things are
     
  5. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    what if unbriths are just heartless with out the sign on them. like how black americans have African ancestors but they have white ancestors as well. unbriths are just ansetors of heartless, there souls or anything. just regular heartless.
     
  6. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    please stop talking =/
    research before you post please
    the FIRST heartless weren't even created yet, THATS BEEN CONFIRMED BY NOMURA THE CREATOR
    So if you use common sense, then you know that, Unbirths came before Heartless, meaning Heartless couldn't be ancestors of Unbirth, Meaning Unbirths if anything are ancestors of Heartles...god
    Second, ITS A FICTION GAME, WHAT DO AMERICANS HAVE DO WITH IT
     
  7. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    i was doing an analogy, plus i was tried when I typed that. I'm just saying it. what do YOU think unbriths if you know so much. but since you don't know YOU stop talking and You research you self before making jugdements.
     
  8. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    Yea, but don't say things when they arent even possible. how hard is that? because obviously you know nothing.

    Anyway, i already said i didn't know, but my theory is beyond what you probably will comprehend because you have to know like ALOTTT about kingdom hearts :p, and half of it is based on floating theories, so could easily be incorrect.


    but if i had to guess, i would say unbirths are failed experiments of some sort, half heartless you could say, they are beings or hearts maybe even souls, that master xehanort were experimenting with while trying to either, either filling them with darkness(makes the most sense pay attention to the darkness part, if you need a hint) or w.e open kingdom hearts or find the secrets of the heart, or both, while doing this he messed up, creating an unbirth, this unbirth or unbirths multiplied rapidly, turning either the soul or heart into one of their own.

    Evidence (and this comes to my DS being an Unbirth theory):

    "This Man man is MONSTER infused with darkness, use your power, to defeat this darkness and correct my mistake"- Said By MX to Ven in the video below:

    YouTube - Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep - JUMP FESTA 2008 Trailer SUBTITLE

    Well im not sure if you know the concept or story behind BBS, but we are basically looking for MX and His Missing Apprentice, and im sure he experimented on his apprentice, infusing darkness in him, making him a monster, or a unbirth,
    Also if you haven't noticed, all of unbirth eyes are yellow, i think wen DS's mask or helmet, gets knocked off, we will see his eyes yellow, or something scary :D

    there are alot of holes in my theory, ill let u find em, but at least it makes sense and is possible
     
  9. Answer Man

    Answer Man Man I'm Awesome

    i know kh but I'm just going off thing we might not expect. it might not make sense but sometimes things don't make sense. we all have theroys that are 70% percent correct, just cause mine are a little weird dosn't mean I don't know anything about kh.
     
  10. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.

    well actually, what you were saying was all wrong, not saying you don't know anything about KH, you just don't research the new games, at all, therefore your theory is wrong

    Nomura said Unbirths are not heartless in any way, shape, or form. So you were wrong on that
    plus if you look at the time this is 10 years before KH, if you didn't know
    Ansem the Wise, Founded the first heartless around 2-6 years before KH, guessing, if i did the calculations correct
    Meaning, Unbirths can't be heartless, because heartless weren't even alive.
    So im just saying, the things your going off of, i wouldn't expect, because it will never happen, so your theory ranges in the 30% thats incorrect

    plus you didn't say anything about my theory, so im guessing you don't get it, or can't take it apart
     
  11. King of Darkness

    King of Darkness What up Monica

    aren't unbirth's made from neither the body or heart, but the soul? Just a guess. I always heard of the mind, body, heart, and soul.
     
  12. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.


    well thats a theory, we don't really know, but im sure they are made of the soul are or something
     
  13. Here is an idea.

    Does anyone have any memories of when they were in the womb? No, of course not. So what if when someone looses all their memories from their heart they revert to an existence that is similar to that of being in the womb/unborn?

    Perhaps that is what unbirths are/
     
  14. x3pic

    x3pic I'll Kill You.


    Well then, that would make roxas an unbirth somewhat, he lost all of his memories. it wasn't only till sora was almost woken when he got them back
     
  15. cozzy_0205

    cozzy_0205 New Member

    I think the theory in the first post has something... very interesting

    I think what Twilight meant was that the person looses all their memories from that point and an unbirth is created when a human is born from the memories of being unborn that humans aren't able to keep.
     
  16. Master Gilgamesh

    Master Gilgamesh New Member

    the theories are interesting, but since unbirths are around the time of the 'keyblade war', could they be the souls of a keyblade wielder being slain by another keyblade? theres only about 3,5 keyblade wielders in soras time, and no unbirths, but by the looks from the cutscenes, theres heaps of unbirths and heaps of keybladers... this might (loosely) may have something to do with this....

    the name also: Un. Birth. not. born. could be a primordial version of heartless- which might be why some unbriths look like heartless. so unbirths might instead be a fusion of a heartless/nobody...i don't know..
    another point: when ven asks terra to 'erase' him, it may have to do with twilight's theory of memories. if a person wielding a keyblade and dies by another one, an unbirth may be created by a memory of that person...
    This is my theory, so please don't pick bits out here and there saying untrue, etc. it is a theory, after all...
     
  17. cozzy_0205

    cozzy_0205 New Member

    Very interesting I like that theory and now that I think on it it makes complete sense. Unless "erase" means something else to them. Like maybe erasing is a method of dispatching a keyblade wielder without creating an unbirth
     
  18. i agree with my friends Master Gilgamesh and Cozzy when they say that Unbirths are the souls of past Keyblade wielders, i also think that the Unbirths may be the Chasers that are referenced to in The Gathering
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2009
  19. Master Gilgamesh

    Master Gilgamesh New Member

    hang on, i think we all have it wrong. thought about this while brushing teeth. nobodies are mind.
    heart. mind. soul. the expression and the fact that yen sid says the nobodies are when the husk of a body w/out a heart develops a consciousness... so nobodies are mind and don't truly exist as its a consciousness out of nothing... and all 3 would fit nicely as heart, mind, soul are all housed within our bodies...
     
  20. EtherealSummoner

    EtherealSummoner Lamentations 3:22-26

    XDXD BRUSHING YOUR TEETH?!! Funnay! Anyways, this what comes back to my last post about the unbirths. first off, nobodies are the soul & body left behind. Heartless are darkness made up of the heart taken away. Unbirths, well, they might be a being who wasn't able to live their life. You know, a person who was killed by another one & is never able to live their normal life.
     
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